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For everyone complaining about evidence citation, this is just a press release. The actual brief which includes 41 citations is here: https://world-heart-federa

For everyone complaining about evidence citation, this is just a press release. The actual brief which includes 41 citations is here: https://world-heart-federation.org/wp-content/uploads/WHF-Policy-Brief-Alcohol.pdf https://world-heart-federation.org/wp-content/uploads/WHF-Po...

dang 5y ago
(the parent comment was originally in reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30009882 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30009882, which we merged hither)
chainwax 5y ago
I saw this from this link: https://world-heart-federation.org/news/no-amount-of-alcohol-is-good-for-the-heart-says-world-heart-federation/ https://world-heart-federation.org/news/no-amount-of-alcohol... In that article, it states: "Alcohol has a greater impact on people from low socio-economic backgrounds, who are more likely to experience its adverse effects compared to people from higher socio-economic backgrounds, even when consuming similar or lower amounts." Can someone provide some insight here? What does your wage have to do with how you body handles booze?
- omgitsabird 5y ago
  My first thought would be compounding any of the comorbidities that are already correlated with low socioeconomic status.
- magicroot75 5y ago
  This is a statistical claim. Not a causal claim. But we could make some assumptions about it. For instance low income people may be less likely to afford childcare or driver services like Uber which result in them being more likely to drive or child-care under the influence. Furthermore they may be more likely to have diabetes and heart issues, which may make them more susceptible to comorbities from alcohol toxicity.
- exdsq 5y ago
  I'm not 100% certain about this, but my initial thoughts are that low socio-economic backgrounds will have less medical treatment (especially preventative) so issues aren't caught as quickly meaning you'll have more health issues at the same consumption rates. Other stats such as higher socio-economic backgrounds tending to eat more healthy foods, exercise more, have a greater ability to have a fruitful social life etc, will all be additional factors.
  - adam_arthur 5y ago
    That's true across the board though, and seems strange to call it out specifically in regards to alcohol consumption.
    - 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
      It’s true across the board, but is relevant to things done across the board. So it is more relevant to public health than the disproportionate impact of scuba diving.
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- belorn 5y ago
  The two major negative effects of low social-economic status on health that I commonly see mentioned is increased stress and reduced amount of cooping mechanics that provide protection. The human body is pretty able to withstand most injuries, viruses, bacteria and so on. The more stressed a person is the less the body is able to do that recovery. In addition, if and individual is low on the socio-economic scale they might not have available cooping mechanics like resting, taking a day of, or access to social support. A lack of cooping mechanics is also a source for stress, making the body prioritizing other things than recovery.
- justinpombrio 5y ago
  It cites this paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32504585/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32504585/ which says in its abstract: " Individuals with low socioeconomic status (SES) experience disproportionately greater alcohol-attributable health harm than individuals with high SES from similar or lower amounts of alcohol consumption." and "Alcohol use explained up to 27% of the socioeconomic inequalities in mortality. The proportion of socioeconomic inequalities explained systematically differed by drinking pattern, with heavy episodic drinking having a potentially significant explanatory value."
bjoyx 5y ago

dang 5y ago

(the parent comment was originally in reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30009882 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30009882, which we merged hither)

chainwax 5y ago

I saw this from this link: https://world-heart-federation.org/news/no-amount-of-alcohol-is-good-for-the-heart-says-world-heart-federation/ https://world-heart-federation.org/news/no-amount-of-alcohol... In that article, it states: "Alcohol has a greater impact on people from low socio-economic backgrounds, who are more likely to experience its adverse effects compared to people from higher socio-economic backgrounds, even when consuming similar or lower amounts." Can someone provide some insight here? What does your wage have to do with how you body handles booze?

omgitsabird 5y ago
My first thought would be compounding any of the comorbidities that are already correlated with low socioeconomic status.
magicroot75 5y ago
This is a statistical claim. Not a causal claim. But we could make some assumptions about it. For instance low income people may be less likely to afford childcare or driver services like Uber which result in them being more likely to drive or child-care under the influence. Furthermore they may be more likely to have diabetes and heart issues, which may make them more susceptible to comorbities from alcohol toxicity.
exdsq 5y ago
I'm not 100% certain about this, but my initial thoughts are that low socio-economic backgrounds will have less medical treatment (especially preventative) so issues aren't caught as quickly meaning you'll have more health issues at the same consumption rates. Other stats such as higher socio-economic backgrounds tending to eat more healthy foods, exercise more, have a greater ability to have a fruitful social life etc, will all be additional factors.
- adam_arthur 5y ago
  That's true across the board though, and seems strange to call it out specifically in regards to alcohol consumption.
  - 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
    It’s true across the board, but is relevant to things done across the board. So it is more relevant to public health than the disproportionate impact of scuba diving.
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belorn 5y ago
The two major negative effects of low social-economic status on health that I commonly see mentioned is increased stress and reduced amount of cooping mechanics that provide protection. The human body is pretty able to withstand most injuries, viruses, bacteria and so on. The more stressed a person is the less the body is able to do that recovery. In addition, if and individual is low on the socio-economic scale they might not have available cooping mechanics like resting, taking a day of, or access to social support. A lack of cooping mechanics is also a source for stress, making the body prioritizing other things than recovery.
justinpombrio 5y ago
It cites this paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32504585/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32504585/ which says in its abstract: " Individuals with low socioeconomic status (SES) experience disproportionately greater alcohol-attributable health harm than individuals with high SES from similar or lower amounts of alcohol consumption." and "Alcohol use explained up to 27% of the socioeconomic inequalities in mortality. The proportion of socioeconomic inequalities explained systematically differed by drinking pattern, with heavy episodic drinking having a potentially significant explanatory value."

bjoyx 5y ago