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I know of a man who had a shot of 96 percent alcohol (192 proof) every single day and died at the age of 96.
by maskil 5y ago
I know of a man who had a shot of 96 percent alcohol (192 proof) every single day and died at the age of 96.
- JohnJamesRambo 5y agoYes that is an anecdote. We get better info by looking at large groups of people and that is what the recommendation is based on.
- notch656a 5y agoAgreed, although a single shot of moonshine is a equivalent to a little over a pint of beer. You can drink that and be well within alcohol consumption guidelines in US. Even most alcohol-naïve people would only be minimally intoxicated from a single shot of moonshine.
- JohnJamesRambo 5y agoThe guidelines are probably wrong. All recent scientific data I see shows that, like most poisons, the best amount to intake is zero. Here’s one for brain health. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.10.21256931v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.10.21256931v...
- notch656a 5y ago"The dose makes the poison" - Paracelsus I'm sure drinking has some effect on you, but I'm not sure one non-peer reviewed which by their own papers shows <18 drinks / week shows baseline within the uncertainty band is evidence of any noticeable mental decline. In fact several of the graphs, it shows an increase in matter volume for low non-zero amounts vs zero.
- jeromegv 5y agoFrom Wikipedia: Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to some false conclusions in several different ways. It is a form of selection bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
- HNDen21 5y agoshould have gone for 98 percent alcohol, would have lived till 98 :-)
- mellavora 5y agoDamn! Good thing he wasn't drinking 40 proof spirits, otherwise he would have died much sooner.
- scrapcode 5y agoMy great grandfather sat in a chair and drank from his handle of whiskey every day until his death also at 96. I had heard stories of workers on his farm not realize he was drinking during the work day until the tractor plowed through a neighboring fence causing them to look up in concern to see him passed out on the seat. I unfortunately saw many in my family use his fortunate long life span, regardless of drink consumption, as an enabler to drink like that. Including myself, up until about 90 days ago.
- selimthegrim 5y agoWhat happened 90 days ago?
- scrapcode 5y agoI gave up drinking.
- dontlistentome 5y ago
- tasha0663 5y agoThese studies have clearly run into some local maximum... the trick is to blow past it!
- RankingMember 5y agoYep, and there's always that one person who trots out that their grandmother smoked 2 packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day and lived to be 100. Anecdata is not data.
- maskil 5y agoHe was known to have said that it's the 4 percent water that's going to kill him.
- gatorvh 5y agoThe statement is only interesting when you consider a sizeable population who regularly drank the % alcohol and lived to 96. It’s a classic case of selection bias