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Well the pilots are dead in a lot of incidents so it's kinda moot? Airlines are sued all the time over crashes and right now Boeing is being sued over crashes f

Well the pilots are dead in a lot of incidents so it's kinda moot? Airlines are sued all the time over crashes and right now Boeing is being sued over crashes from MCAS, even though there is a magic combination the pilots could have pressed to override it. Generally, in any kind of crash investigation the pilots are one of the least important things to look at - telling people to do X or Y to mitigate some risk has a terrible track record.

daniel-thompson 5y ago
> Well the pilots are dead in a lot of incidents so it's kinda moot? It's not moot because most occurrences don't result in death. Occurrences are investigated both to establish fault (which can and does sometimes result in pilots losing their flight status and/or jobs), and from a safety perspective to try to prevent or minimize future occurrences. > Generally, in any kind of crash investigation the pilots are one of the least important things to look at This is not true. Most accidents and incidents are caused at least in part by pilot error. - https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/aviation-accident/why-planes-crash/human-factors-in-aviation/ https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/aviation-accident/why-planes-... - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12136068_Factors_associated_with_pilot_error_in_aviation_crashes https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12136068_Factors_as... - https://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_2_07/article_03_2.html https://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_... > telling people to do X or Y to mitigate some risk has a terrible track record. This is not true at all, at least when it comes to aircraft pilots. As anyone who's been to flight school knows, about 90% of the curriculum could reasonably be described as "telling the pilot to do X or Y to mitigate risk". And it works! There are millions of flights every year, and the overwhelmingly vast majority of them are safe (because pilots actively & successfully mitigate risk).

daniel-thompson 5y ago

> Well the pilots are dead in a lot of incidents so it's kinda moot? It's not moot because most occurrences don't result in death. Occurrences are investigated both to establish fault (which can and does sometimes result in pilots losing their flight status and/or jobs), and from a safety perspective to try to prevent or minimize future occurrences. > Generally, in any kind of crash investigation the pilots are one of the least important things to look at This is not true. Most accidents and incidents are caused at least in part by pilot error. - https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/aviation-accident/why-planes-crash/human-factors-in-aviation/ https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/aviation-accident/why-planes-... - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12136068_Factors_associated_with_pilot_error_in_aviation_crashes https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12136068_Factors_as... - https://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_2_07/article_03_2.html https://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_... > telling people to do X or Y to mitigate some risk has a terrible track record. This is not true at all, at least when it comes to aircraft pilots. As anyone who's been to flight school knows, about 90% of the curriculum could reasonably be described as "telling the pilot to do X or Y to mitigate risk". And it works! There are millions of flights every year, and the overwhelmingly vast majority of them are safe (because pilots actively & successfully mitigate risk).