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Tesla should be liable for misleading consumers. They released videos demo'ing autopilot and ignoring their own guidelines of always having hands on the wheel.

Tesla should be liable for misleading consumers. They released videos demo'ing autopilot and ignoring their own guidelines of always having hands on the wheel. They call their feature "autopilot"/"FSD" and Elon has been personally promising real FSD next year every year for the past 5 years. When people's lives are in danger, there should be greater accountability over the marketing that companies are trying to pass off as hard truth.

creckic 5y ago
Huh? What videos ignoring their own guidelines? You are aware that the car keeps nagging you if you don't keep your hands on the wheel, right? And no, they don't call it "'autopilot'/'FSD'". They call FSD FSD, and Autopilot Autopilot. Promising FSD has got nothing to do with Autopilot. FSD is a completely separate package you have to purchase. You are lying about their marketing.
dividuum 5y ago
> Elon has been personally promising real FSD next year every year for the past 5 years. Even funnier in video format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oZ-AQszEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oZ-AQszEI
- boogies 5y ago
  There seems to be a progression there from ‘I think it’ll be able to drive the easiest roads in a year or two’ to ‘It’ll be 2–4× safer than humans soon’. So in my opinion calling all of it ‘promising real FSD’ is at least half as misleading as the marketing.
  - computerex 5y ago
    He has been promising FSD capabilities. He said the car will be able to autonomously drive from west coast to the east coast, he said robo taxis will make $30k a year and that it’s financially insane to buy anything but a Tesla because Teslas will be an appreciating asset next year when FSD comes out. He’s made too many bs claims for it to be defensible in any way.
    - boogies 5y ago
      I mostly believe you because of another video I’ve seen but lost the link to (and the nonfree software the cars run makes them exceptionally deprecating assets as Tesla remotely decreases max acceleration when the cars are resold), I guess my point was that the video dividuum shared didn’t really show claims that hyperbolic, and if I didn’t already dislike Tesla neither of your comments would convince me.

creckic 5y ago

Huh? What videos ignoring their own guidelines? You are aware that the car keeps nagging you if you don't keep your hands on the wheel, right? And no, they don't call it "'autopilot'/'FSD'". They call FSD FSD, and Autopilot Autopilot. Promising FSD has got nothing to do with Autopilot. FSD is a completely separate package you have to purchase. You are lying about their marketing.

dividuum 5y ago

> Elon has been personally promising real FSD next year every year for the past 5 years. Even funnier in video format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oZ-AQszEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oZ-AQszEI

boogies 5y ago
There seems to be a progression there from ‘I think it’ll be able to drive the easiest roads in a year or two’ to ‘It’ll be 2–4× safer than humans soon’. So in my opinion calling all of it ‘promising real FSD’ is at least half as misleading as the marketing.
- computerex 5y ago
  He has been promising FSD capabilities. He said the car will be able to autonomously drive from west coast to the east coast, he said robo taxis will make $30k a year and that it’s financially insane to buy anything but a Tesla because Teslas will be an appreciating asset next year when FSD comes out. He’s made too many bs claims for it to be defensible in any way.
  - boogies 5y ago
    I mostly believe you because of another video I’ve seen but lost the link to (and the nonfree software the cars run makes them exceptionally deprecating assets as Tesla remotely decreases max acceleration when the cars are resold), I guess my point was that the video dividuum shared didn’t really show claims that hyperbolic, and if I didn’t already dislike Tesla neither of your comments would convince me.