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This what gets me. Zuck is a well educated fella. He must know this is wrong. Why is this happening? Has he lost control of Facebook? Is he not interested?

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ceejayoz 5y ago
> He must know this is wrong. It's entirely possible to be well educated and amoral, either via genuine inability to comprehend or simply not caring.
- mandmandam 5y ago
  We know for a fact that FB leadership regularly discussed ripping off smaller companies business ideas (ie, Snapchat [0]. Not a sign of moral people. https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/08/17/theftovation-facebook-likes-copying-ideas/id=86916/ https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/08/17/theftovation-facebook-...
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    Ripping off business ideas is an aspect of competition (BK versus McDonalds), not sure it is related to morals…
    - mandmandam 5y ago
      Sorry, what? If I share an mp3 the record industry demands ridiculous compensation. If I steal a paragraph in a college exam and get caught, I'm sent home without credit or refund. If I sell a drawing of a certain cartoon mouse, or draw a red shirt on Pooh, I can literally go to jail. ... But if I invest my life savings to start a company based on an insightful idea and read of the market, a trillion dollar company can rip me off wholesale and people will call it "business" and "not related to morals"? Please tell me that sounds as batshit insane to you as it does to me.
      - ceejayoz 5y ago
        > If I share an mp3 the record industry demands ridiculous compensation. If you look at the success of Britney Spears and spawn an entire market of popstar clones, though, that's entirely legal. That's essentially what Facebook did to Snapchat.
      - mensetmanusman 5y ago
        Usually general business models are not protected as intellectual property in the same way as bit-for-bit copies in the case of mp3s/writings. I’m not saying it should be. The bigger issue that you are pointing to is that the tech companies are becoming large trusts that do everything and can leverage their size to win everywhere. E.g. see Amazon competing with Intel now. The anti-trust movement needs to be stronger if society says: ‘wait, this isn’t a good idea to let one company win at everything’
    - annadane 5y ago
      Oh come on. There's a limit to being pedantic
      - krapp 5y ago
        Strictly speaking, there isn't.
simiones 5y ago
Educated people do morally wrong things all the time. The two have no relationship to each other.
commandlinefan 5y ago
> He must know this is wrong. From his perspective, it's not wrong, as long as the "fact-checking" goes his way.

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ceejayoz 5y ago

> He must know this is wrong. It's entirely possible to be well educated and amoral, either via genuine inability to comprehend or simply not caring.

mandmandam 5y ago
We know for a fact that FB leadership regularly discussed ripping off smaller companies business ideas (ie, Snapchat [0]. Not a sign of moral people. https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/08/17/theftovation-facebook-likes-copying-ideas/id=86916/ https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/08/17/theftovation-facebook-...
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  Ripping off business ideas is an aspect of competition (BK versus McDonalds), not sure it is related to morals…
  - mandmandam 5y ago
    Sorry, what? If I share an mp3 the record industry demands ridiculous compensation. If I steal a paragraph in a college exam and get caught, I'm sent home without credit or refund. If I sell a drawing of a certain cartoon mouse, or draw a red shirt on Pooh, I can literally go to jail. ... But if I invest my life savings to start a company based on an insightful idea and read of the market, a trillion dollar company can rip me off wholesale and people will call it "business" and "not related to morals"? Please tell me that sounds as batshit insane to you as it does to me.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      > If I share an mp3 the record industry demands ridiculous compensation. If you look at the success of Britney Spears and spawn an entire market of popstar clones, though, that's entirely legal. That's essentially what Facebook did to Snapchat.
    - mensetmanusman 5y ago
      Usually general business models are not protected as intellectual property in the same way as bit-for-bit copies in the case of mp3s/writings. I’m not saying it should be. The bigger issue that you are pointing to is that the tech companies are becoming large trusts that do everything and can leverage their size to win everywhere. E.g. see Amazon competing with Intel now. The anti-trust movement needs to be stronger if society says: ‘wait, this isn’t a good idea to let one company win at everything’
  - annadane 5y ago
    Oh come on. There's a limit to being pedantic
    - krapp 5y ago
      Strictly speaking, there isn't.

simiones 5y ago

Educated people do morally wrong things all the time. The two have no relationship to each other.

commandlinefan 5y ago

> He must know this is wrong. From his perspective, it's not wrong, as long as the "fact-checking" goes his way.