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This is good news, I suppose. But why should users trust SUSE to maintain a free RHEL clone for the long term when Red Hat came to the conclusion it was bad bus
by Veen 5y ago
This is good news, I suppose. But why should users trust SUSE to maintain a free RHEL clone for the long term when Red Hat came to the conclusion it was bad business. Once bitten, twice shy.
- ianai 5y agoSuse isn’t owned by a large consulting/marketing firm (IBM). Tech and specifically Linux support is central to their business case.
- lproven 5y ago[Article author here] True. Although IBM has sold off a lot of its consulting business, you know. https://newsroom.ibm.com/2021-11-03-IBM-Completes-the-Separation-of-Kyndryl https://newsroom.ibm.com/2021-11-03-IBM-Completes-the-Separa...
- ianai 5y agoSomeone who’s worked with lots of marketing professionals here, of course the marketing professionals have sold a ton!
- tolle 5y agoSUSE is owned, through various companies, the Wallenberg Family nowadays, isn't it?
- ianai 5y agoEQT, a private holding firm, per google. Private and holding are doing a lot of work in that sentence.
- froh 5y agoTo my understanding suse has offered CentOS maintenance for along time already, in a package to migrate you over to SUSE Linux Enterprise. and the service level agreements only apply for customers, as in paying customers. So it's _customers_ who can trust it.
- hnlmorg 5y agoBecause SuSE has already been doing this for longer than CentOS has been around. It's just SuSE isn't a big name in America, it's used more in Europe (and often typically mainland Europe too). Their distros are usually pretty solid too.
- znpy 5y agoAFAIK is mostly used in Germany, where SuSe has a strong take due to the average german person strongly preferring german-native stuff. It looks like a cultural to me, in many times when I have interacted with people from Germany in a business context it just seemed that they are perfectly capable of speaking english but they just don't want to.
- retrac 5y ago> it just seemed that they are perfectly capable of speaking english but they just don't want to Due to the similarity of German and English, German speakers can superficially appear far more competent in English than they actually are. (This goes both ways.) Speakers of both languages come to the other with about half of the grammar (including hard bits that usually betray non-natives like irregular verbs by vowel umlaut) and a large collection of basic Germanic roots. I'm always amused when watching a German film how entire sentences sometimes are decoded by my brain as English, when they're German. But this completely breaks down once you go beyond "Ich habe all das Bier getrunken". German never got all the French-Latin vocabulary. Most technical and literary terms are completely different. They may feel quite ill-at-ease in English even though they sound reasonably fluent with the basics.
- turbinerneiter 5y agoAs a German native speaker, I like to break German-as-a-foreign-language speakers brains with delayed verbs. Sadly, this style also makes my English bad^^
- petre 5y agoWe also use LEAP on most of our servers. It's rock solid. I prefer it to Ubuntu after they snap-ed everything. Newer packages, seamless upgrades. Not so many packages though. We're still using Ubuntu 18 on development workstations, but that could probably change the second SuSE decides to offer >2yr free tier support.
- downrightmike 5y agoRed Hat came to the conclusion it was bad business.- Is this really why they chose to do it? Streams make more sense with the modern environment. Fedora is upstream, then centos then RHEL. RH is doing a stepped approach which makes sense because no one can remember all domains and forsee all problems. -Bad business is what Microsoft is doing by dumping broken patches on end users to test in production after MS liquidated their QA testers.