I have no problem with amateurish communities (as I explained in the OP), because community mentorship is still a hell of a lot better than nothing. My problem

I have no problem with amateurish communities (as I explained in the OP), because community mentorship is still a hell of a lot better than nothing. My problem with IndieHackers is that there's very little mentorship, and a lot of upselling, treating the forum like a marketing tool.