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CIA and Mi6 are controversial but that does not mean they are the same as FSB or MMS.
by dandare 5y ago
CIA and Mi6 are controversial but that does not mean they are the same as FSB or MMS.
- sgjohnson 5y agoWhy not? Because they are “the good guys”?
- rosndo 5y agoDoes the CIA assassinate US journos for saying bad things about the government? Character assassination doesn’t count. Have western intelligence services been implicated in something similar to FSBs domestic assassination program lately? No?
- ener 5y agoBut from whom did you get that information about FSB and MSS? CIA and MI6 may assassinate anyone as they please because there is no one to expose them. At least we know that Mossad doesn't have problem with killing politicians, scientist and journos.
- rosndo 5y ago> because there is no one to expose them I do not believe this. Why do you think so?
- sgjohnson 5y ago> Character assassination doesn’t count. Why not? Character assasination is far more effective than two bullets to the back of the head. Character assasination is positive PR and a distraction. There’s no real way you can spin a “journalist who criticized the US government was found dead” story. > Have western intelligence services been implicated in something similar to FSBs domestic assassination program lately? No? Western intelligence services run torture camps and secret prisons all over the world. Just because they don’t have a domestic assasination program doesn’t make them any better.
- rosndo 5y ago>Why not? Because murdering someone and making them look bad are not the same thing. Even children know this. > Just because they don’t have a domestic assasination program doesn’t make them any better. Why not? Is the argument here that western intelligence agencies do bad stuff at a bigger scale than the FSB and the MSS? I’d love to see evidence of that. I think the truth is that western intelligence agencies face far more scrutiny. The FSB can (attempt to) murder leading opposition politicians without any meaningful domestic criticism, the same is absolutely not true of western services.
- dandare 5y agoYes, exactly. Or would you rather live in a China or Russia dominated world? Good luck. (Again, I am not saying they are not bad, I am saying they are not the same.)
- saiya-jin 5y agoCitizens of many countries ravaged by US/UK inability to see the results of their actions and policies tend to disagree... at least those that survived.
- rosndo 5y agoThose people are really unlikely to hold any opinion regarding the FSB or MSS, why would they disagree?