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I sometimes wonder if Mozilla conspires to drive Firefox into the ground. But I also sometimes wonder if someone inside Google and MS are actively sabotaging o
by skinkestek 5y ago
I sometimes wonder if Mozilla conspires to drive Firefox into the ground.
But I also sometimes wonder if someone inside Google and MS are actively sabotaging or if it is possible that all this self harm has been inflicted unintentionally.
- mulmen 5y agoNever attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
- teddyh 5y agoSufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable from stupidity.
- eecc 5y agoIt’s plausible deniability
- skinkestek 5y agoGood point :-) But I think it is more common and makes more sense too to put it the other way around: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity/incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
- mulmen 5y agoIt is as correct to say that sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice. The difference between these claims and Hanlon's Razor is that the razor warns against assuming the malice in the absence of evidence.
- rightbyte 5y agoStupidity is malice when you are supposed to be competent. I.e. if a politician puts a first aid kit on some wounded person in the wrong way, it is not malice, but if a doctor can't do it properly, it is. How Mozilla treats us Firefox lusers is malice. E.g. silently enabling spying via updates, pushing disruptive UI changes, or what not.
- chongli 5y agoMozilla might have been the doctor at one point but now they’ve morphed into the politician. The Google gravy train has utterly destroyed Mozilla’s ability to innovate. The whole culture over there has become completely corrupt and self-indulgent and the good ones have either left or been let go. Sad days.
- mulmen 5y agoTake it up with Hanlon.
- jakub_g 5y agoHaving Firefox around for just a few hundred million per year is convenient for Google to not have Chrome considered a monopoly (although Edge getting back the market somehow changes it). Anyway it feels like it would be stupid and potentially more costly for them to do moves to sabotage Firefox. It's like an insurance.
- skinkestek 5y agoGood points. But the big question is if there is an agreement or "understanding" or something that Google only pays as long as Firefox doesn't become a threat, i.e.: - don't fix the plugin ecosystem - don't fix theming - don't get too far ahead technically (i.e. a good reason to get rid of the servo team) - don't claim too much authority (i.e. get rid of MDN) Of course this is wild speculation and mostly in jest.