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Yeah my work is promoting ecosia internally. But I feel it's more of a scam. Ecosia is just like Google but a bit of the ad revenue goes to planting trees. If

Yeah my work is promoting ecosia internally. But I feel it's more of a scam. Ecosia is just like Google but a bit of the ad revenue goes to planting trees. If they really cared so much they could easily donate tens of times that amount to planting trees directly. Because we're talking cents per user per month. That they don't bother at all makes it look to me like virtue signalling without having to actually spend any money. Considering the late stage of climate change it's too late for this imo. And this kind of initiative only makes people rich while giving companies a reason not to really do something to contribute. The same way the airlines around here give you the option of 'compensating' CO2 through some fancy commercial scheme. On my last 4000km round trip I could compensate it for 1.57 euros. Most of it will not make it to the trees but stick in 'overhead'. Eh yeah right.. If it was as easy as that we really would have fixed the problem by now.

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lopis 5y ago
It's literally impossible for Ecosia to donate significantly more to tre planting and other initiatives. 80% of profits always go to the ecological projects, or go to the"tree fund". This tree fund can be used in a (sometimes literal) rainy day. It was, for example, possible to support some of the organizations during the pandemic while their countries suffered total lockdowns. Those communities might have struggled much more otherwise. The only way to donate much more is... Well, increase revenue. But Ecosia wants that as much as anyone else. If you want to learn more, the financial reports are public... [0] Source: dev at Ecosia. [0] https://blog.ecosia.org/ecosia-financial-reports-tree-planting-receipts/ https://blog.ecosia.org/ecosia-financial-reports-tree-planti...
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  By 'scam' I don't mean you as ecosia are scamming, and sorry for conveying that sentiment. I do however think that about the airline scheme I mentioned :) What I mean is that my work has done this and is patting themselves on the chest for doing 'a green thing'. Meanwhile they are making billions and not using any of that money to improve the environment. I think we should go beyond trying to find 'win-win scenarios' and really do something. This is where the 'scam' part comes in. I appreciate what you're trying to do but IMO it is a matter of too little too late. Companies should put their money where their mouths are and not just trying to 'be green' with some quick freebies. It gives them a cheap cop-out. The real problem is that people don't want it to cost money. Meanwhile the problem gets bigger and bigger...
  - stffndtz 5y ago
    ...and thats exactly why you should support Ecosia instead of assuming that they are greeenwashing anything like your company (here's me assuming) does. It is wrong, imho, to think, just because an employer uses Ecosia as a scapegoat, to think they are doing the same. Or am I misinterpretating your comments?

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lopis 5y ago

It's literally impossible for Ecosia to donate significantly more to tre planting and other initiatives. 80% of profits always go to the ecological projects, or go to the"tree fund". This tree fund can be used in a (sometimes literal) rainy day. It was, for example, possible to support some of the organizations during the pandemic while their countries suffered total lockdowns. Those communities might have struggled much more otherwise. The only way to donate much more is... Well, increase revenue. But Ecosia wants that as much as anyone else. If you want to learn more, the financial reports are public... [0] Source: dev at Ecosia. [0] https://blog.ecosia.org/ecosia-financial-reports-tree-planting-receipts/ https://blog.ecosia.org/ecosia-financial-reports-tree-planti...

GekkePrutser 5y ago
By 'scam' I don't mean you as ecosia are scamming, and sorry for conveying that sentiment. I do however think that about the airline scheme I mentioned :) What I mean is that my work has done this and is patting themselves on the chest for doing 'a green thing'. Meanwhile they are making billions and not using any of that money to improve the environment. I think we should go beyond trying to find 'win-win scenarios' and really do something. This is where the 'scam' part comes in. I appreciate what you're trying to do but IMO it is a matter of too little too late. Companies should put their money where their mouths are and not just trying to 'be green' with some quick freebies. It gives them a cheap cop-out. The real problem is that people don't want it to cost money. Meanwhile the problem gets bigger and bigger...
- stffndtz 5y ago
  ...and thats exactly why you should support Ecosia instead of assuming that they are greeenwashing anything like your company (here's me assuming) does. It is wrong, imho, to think, just because an employer uses Ecosia as a scapegoat, to think they are doing the same. Or am I misinterpretating your comments?