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I am honestly surprised how there isn't a push for bigger energy independence. For how long will the dependency on russian gas is sustainable (politically speak

I am honestly surprised how there isn't a push for bigger energy independence. For how long will the dependency on russian gas is sustainable (politically speaking)

valyagolev 5y ago
there’s such a call… but it’s dominated by petty local prejudices and weird beliefs, like all politics is. germans want to go all wind and solar, but they also don’t want any of this stuff near their homes, and they don’t want nuclear because it’s so dangerous, etc etc
- croes 5y ago
  Nuclear energy plants are dangerous especially if you think about who is going to build them. The same people who built the Berlin airport would also build the power plants.
  - valyagolev 5y ago
    there are already six built in germany. and a nuclear plant is not an architectural passion project. the same people who built a lot of quite well executed german infrastructure would build them
    - croes 5y ago
      >there are already six built in germany. and a nuclear plant is not an architectural passion project. the same people who built a lot of quite well executed german infrastructure would build them That was some time a go, nowadays the execution is not quite so well, not to mention cost explosion, massive schedule overrun, just look at Stuttgart 21
  - q1w2 5y ago
    The international companies that build airports are absolutely not the same companies that build nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plant construction is not a huge industry, and there are only a few companies globally that do it.
cameldrv 5y ago
The former Prime Minister Gerhard Schröder, started the phaseout of nuclear energy. Now he’s the chairman of the board of Rosneft and the chairman of the shareholders committee of Nord Stream. You figure it out.
- valyagolev 5y ago
  one of his many sins... i always reflexively considered this Merkel's blunder as well
- q1w2 5y ago
  I have often thought of the western anti-nuclear movement being supported/amplified by Russian/Soviet influence campaigns.

I am honestly surprised how there isn't a push for bigger energy independence. For how long will the dependency on russian gas is sustainable (politically speaking)

valyagolev 5y ago

there’s such a call… but it’s dominated by petty local prejudices and weird beliefs, like all politics is. germans want to go all wind and solar, but they also don’t want any of this stuff near their homes, and they don’t want nuclear because it’s so dangerous, etc etc

croes 5y ago
Nuclear energy plants are dangerous especially if you think about who is going to build them. The same people who built the Berlin airport would also build the power plants.
- valyagolev 5y ago
  there are already six built in germany. and a nuclear plant is not an architectural passion project. the same people who built a lot of quite well executed german infrastructure would build them
  - croes 5y ago
    >there are already six built in germany. and a nuclear plant is not an architectural passion project. the same people who built a lot of quite well executed german infrastructure would build them That was some time a go, nowadays the execution is not quite so well, not to mention cost explosion, massive schedule overrun, just look at Stuttgart 21
- q1w2 5y ago
  The international companies that build airports are absolutely not the same companies that build nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plant construction is not a huge industry, and there are only a few companies globally that do it.

cameldrv 5y ago

The former Prime Minister Gerhard Schröder, started the phaseout of nuclear energy. Now he’s the chairman of the board of Rosneft and the chairman of the shareholders committee of Nord Stream. You figure it out.

valyagolev 5y ago
one of his many sins... i always reflexively considered this Merkel's blunder as well
q1w2 5y ago
I have often thought of the western anti-nuclear movement being supported/amplified by Russian/Soviet influence campaigns.