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wolverine876 >>Perhaps you are the one who needs to understand. What makes you the holder of Truth? The people you claim to speak for - why are you speaking for
by kepler1 5y ago
wolverine876
>>Perhaps you are the one who needs to understand. What makes you the holder of Truth? The people you claim to speak for - why are you speaking for anyone? - they vote for these policies, overwhelmingly. They objected for generations to the brutal oppression of police and will tell you, if you let them speak for themselves, that police make them feel less safe. They will tell you that bail ruined lives of innocent people by keeping them imprisoned, costing people jobs, making them burdens on their communities.
>>You can make up characterizations, but the policies are based on, finally, listening to people in those communities.
Further, there is no evidence connecting the policies with crime increases. Crime has remained low overall, and the increase in gun crime and homicide has been spread across the country, regardless of local policies.
Nope.
You in fact are probably among those who believe they are the "holder of Truth" in how much you believe in your exaggerated position and its importance.
Most people of color are not being brutalized by police. Most are not being downtrodden and being imprisoned unjustly. Quite to the contrary, most in this country are law abiding citizens making their way up the economic and social ladder. Many are poor. And more often than not, need and value the protection of police and government for their communities.
You say you listened to the communities, but you actually just decided to hear the loudest/most vocal people who latched on to some headline-grabbing idea that doesn't represent the bulk of what daily life is in this country. And you overexaggerate the proportion of people of color who are experiencing these issues versus living normal, striving, lives. Of course you are -- only that story fits your desire to create disproportionate attention to the issue.
And you took that idea and thought that using it to upend the systems of law would benefit some small symbolic group. Yes there are some incidents of police brutality and misconduct, but you would no more say that that should be grounds to dismantle a system of law any more than you would say that a few bad apples should be used to prejudge a people.
I don't claim to speak on behalf of any community. You certainly do.
The dismantling of justice systems / overlooking of crime is not conducive to a good society. And your last sentence just illustrates the blinders you have on to evidence of increased crime in places with newly-tolerant anti-policing policies.
Don't be so self-righteous and confident in your position because you think you're morally correct.
- ryan_lane 5y ago> The dismantling / overlooking of crime is not conducive to a good society. The funny thing here is that your post is considerably more self-righteous, and it's also hypocritical. You're saying that it's not conducive to society to overlook crime, while ignoring the fact that police are committing crimes with essentially no repercussions. We don't even have requirements to track the crimes the police commit. This point is especially funny when you consider that crime rates are at historic lows, nationwide, but we still have the largest per-capita number of prisoners in the world.
- wolverine876 5y agoMore fabrications about me and my thinking, but no evidence of anything. > Most people of color are not being brutalized by police. Most are not being downtrodden and being imprisoned unjustly. Quite to the contrary, most in this country are law abiding citizens making their way up the economic and social ladder. You are equating abuse by law enforcement with criminality, which is the fundamental problem - privileged people think it only happens to criminals. You are right that they are law-abiding, and yet they still suffer abuse - that is the great problem of our society for generations, they've been saying it for generations, and people like you have ignored them for generations. I actually talk to people, not watch Fox News (or any other nonsense). If you think these issues aren't widespread, you live in a priviledged bubble. Go out. Get on the bus. Talk to people who actually live the experiences.