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Generally I agree with you however It doesnt work here. As a progressive we keep chasing these goals and somehow they simply get perverted to be even worse for

by pempem 5y ago

Generally I agree with you however It doesnt work here. As a progressive we keep chasing these goals and somehow they simply get perverted to be even worse for the taxpayer in the end. i.e. you must have RealID however you must also pay for RealID. You can get paid time off from work to vote or benefits if you have a job, but only if you're a full time employee. Womp! a ton of people are no longer full time employees How do we find our way out?

slg 5y ago
I think a big part of the problem is worrying about all these edge cases and how people will take advantage of these services. Means testing is a prime example. We should be making more services free and open to everyone. Jeff Bezos, a homeless person, and I all have equal right to use government services. None of us should have to pay for our ID. Just give it to us all for free and if necessary raise the taxes on the people who would have paid for these services out of pocket. That improves buy in as now everyone is receiving the same level of benefit and it allows us to remove a lot of bureaucratic bloat that has built up over all these programs trying to assess an individual's eligibility.
- pempem 5y ago
  I would argue that the edge cases are simply propped up political tools so that people can keep creating these inequalities. America, it feels like, is egalitarian in the fact that we all have the ability to sell our souls to be rich. Some folks have a headstart certainly, but there are less blocks to our success than there are in places where family pedigree and class play an even bigger role from England and France to India and S. Korea.
Dma54rhs 5y ago
We Europeans pay for id cards as well? It's part of being a society, getting these things fixed every 6 years or what not, having vaccines etc, it's not discrimination but Americans swear by their so called personal freedoms so you never get nowhere.
hardolaf 5y ago
In Chicago, PTO is accrued at a minimum rate of 1 hour of PTO per 40 hours worked regardless of employment type or status. You guys should get with the times in the rest of the nation.
- throwntoday 5y ago
  Is this post satirical? You can't seriously be holding Chicago up as an example of anything worth copying.
- slg 5y ago
  Pretty depressing that you have been conditioned to think 6.5 days of PTO a year is "with the times". That is abysmal compared to our peer nations.
  - hardolaf 5y ago
    It's better than the rest of the nation...
- brokenmachine 5y ago
  Lol, that's not the flex you seem to think it is.
  - jirf_dev 5y ago
    thinking it’s a flex is missing the interesting point. Which I believe would be that PTO should be progressive and be accrued by hours worked. There shouldn’t be a requirement to be a “full time” employee before PTO is accrued because businesses can easily have people work slightly less than 40hrs/week with minimal loss to operational efficiency. If PTO accrued over hours worked regardless of full time status, businesses would have much less incentive to circumvent the system. Let’s say we have a system where 40 hours worked = 1 day PTO: - the business may choose to split the 40 hours among 4 employees working 10 hours each. - however, needing to hire more employees to cover the same 40 hours (which one person alone could have handled in the legacy system) increases training and recruiting costs 4x (worst case hopefully) for each role. - instead of circumventing the PTO “cost” altogether, the businesses would be forced to budget for it no matter how creative they get with staffing. - budget-wise, the increased cost of PTO would effectively also be increasing the hourly wage. Further forcing businesses to scrutinize the roles they offer and question if it is really necessary to have a human being perform that function.

by pempem 5y ago

slg 5y ago

I think a big part of the problem is worrying about all these edge cases and how people will take advantage of these services. Means testing is a prime example. We should be making more services free and open to everyone. Jeff Bezos, a homeless person, and I all have equal right to use government services. None of us should have to pay for our ID. Just give it to us all for free and if necessary raise the taxes on the people who would have paid for these services out of pocket. That improves buy in as now everyone is receiving the same level of benefit and it allows us to remove a lot of bureaucratic bloat that has built up over all these programs trying to assess an individual's eligibility.

pempem 5y ago
I would argue that the edge cases are simply propped up political tools so that people can keep creating these inequalities. America, it feels like, is egalitarian in the fact that we all have the ability to sell our souls to be rich. Some folks have a headstart certainly, but there are less blocks to our success than there are in places where family pedigree and class play an even bigger role from England and France to India and S. Korea.

Dma54rhs 5y ago

We Europeans pay for id cards as well? It's part of being a society, getting these things fixed every 6 years or what not, having vaccines etc, it's not discrimination but Americans swear by their so called personal freedoms so you never get nowhere.

hardolaf 5y ago

In Chicago, PTO is accrued at a minimum rate of 1 hour of PTO per 40 hours worked regardless of employment type or status. You guys should get with the times in the rest of the nation.

throwntoday 5y ago
Is this post satirical? You can't seriously be holding Chicago up as an example of anything worth copying.
slg 5y ago
Pretty depressing that you have been conditioned to think 6.5 days of PTO a year is "with the times". That is abysmal compared to our peer nations.
- hardolaf 5y ago
  It's better than the rest of the nation...
brokenmachine 5y ago
Lol, that's not the flex you seem to think it is.
- jirf_dev 5y ago
  thinking it’s a flex is missing the interesting point. Which I believe would be that PTO should be progressive and be accrued by hours worked. There shouldn’t be a requirement to be a “full time” employee before PTO is accrued because businesses can easily have people work slightly less than 40hrs/week with minimal loss to operational efficiency. If PTO accrued over hours worked regardless of full time status, businesses would have much less incentive to circumvent the system. Let’s say we have a system where 40 hours worked = 1 day PTO: - the business may choose to split the 40 hours among 4 employees working 10 hours each. - however, needing to hire more employees to cover the same 40 hours (which one person alone could have handled in the legacy system) increases training and recruiting costs 4x (worst case hopefully) for each role. - instead of circumventing the PTO “cost” altogether, the businesses would be forced to budget for it no matter how creative they get with staffing. - budget-wise, the increased cost of PTO would effectively also be increasing the hourly wage. Further forcing businesses to scrutinize the roles they offer and question if it is really necessary to have a human being perform that function.