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You're not roped in (good, albeit not free, alternatives exist), but yeah, this is just a fuckover. I've been paying google for GDrive for some time now, and t

You're not roped in (good, albeit not free, alternatives exist), but yeah, this is just a fuckover. I've been paying google for GDrive for some time now, and that's about to end. It's back to Dropbox. I know, I don't have to do this, but the hell with google. I'm done. This is nothing short of a needless f---over, and I want as little to do with them as possible.

nighthawk454 5y ago
Not _absolutely_ roped in, but practically, yes. The cost of switching is ridiculously higher than the cost of just paying up - it's not a realistic option. Which, considering they also control how hard it is to switch, is a bit artificial. It would be a little different if they did this to _everyone_ and completely removed the free @gmail plans. But instead they're targeting GSuite users when @gmail plans are _right there_, because they know they can get it. Honestly, if it weren't for the alternatives setting somewhat of a market price, little could stop them from charging triple. The only comparable plan is the lowest tier of 4 tiers as it is, and I doubt it's gonna get _cheaper_ over time.
- fragmede 5y ago
  Not really - that was the whole point of getting my own domain, so I could move it over if something like this ever happened. Mail to me gets sent to user@domain.name, both before and after the switch. You can argue the other services like google drive and docs are harder to move, and that's true, but those also have their own alternatives that aren't quite as reliant as email is in having the same user@domain.name forever.
  - nighthawk454 5y ago
    No, the domain is irrelevant now. Technically, I can keep my email going to my own domain. But this is the least of my concerns. The only "way out" is to completely de-Google-ify. But short of that I pretty much have to pay them. The entire Google account will be suspended unless there's payment. I'd have to audit everything my Google accounts are used for, find alternatives, train users on the N new services, and deal with all the migrations. Which frankly is impractical. Some stuff is not easily migrate-able (YouTube subs/history, Android purchases, ...), and unless I don't need a Google account again ever, I'll probably end up migrating to an @gmail one at least partially. But at least I keep the domain?? Which I'd then be paying a mail provider about the same amount for. Plus probably more for any other paid services. To say nothing of convincing and migrating my family/other users. If I could only keep the Google account going with my own mail/services that'd be something. They say I "may" retain access to YouTube and Photos, for now. And the account will be in a 'suspended' state that requires payment to get out of. It's not exactly a surprise, and I know "that's what I get" for using Google services. But it's still scummy.
    - richdougherty 5y ago
      I completely agree. I'm running through my head thinking of all the things in my domain account. Email archive/filters/rules, contacts, calendar, docs (mine and things shared with me), Drive, photos, Play purchases, Google One subscription for extra space, Android, Google Cloud. Then I have stuff on a plain @gmail account that didn't work with my domain account - family library, links. That was already annoying. Don't want to mess that up either. Should I merge the accounts or create a new @gmail account to hold everything? My estimate is that it will take days of migration/backup/testing to move over, then extra time to ironing out issues that crop up. Hopefully I don't lose any content or purchases... Even with email forwarding I believe I'll lose cosmetic things like using your domain as the owner of calendar invites, photo sharing, etc. This is for 1 email account/domain only. I think I'll probably pay up.
    - rootusrootus 5y ago
      This is that moment where I feel really good about always making sure I didn't use my custom email domain address as a google account, and have maintained a gmail.com account all along to serve that role. So for my situation, I can just use IMAP to move the mail to a new provider. Easy peasy.
    - evilduck 5y ago
      To be fair to yourself, you signed up for one of these grandfathered plans before Google became a toxic brand.
- sundarurfriend 5y ago
  > The cost of switching is ridiculously higher than the cost of just paying up - it's not a realistic option. On "the cost of just paying up" side, also tally up the cost of dealing with whatever other shenanigans Google decides to pull later; knowing that you will be equally powerless and option-limited at that time too, and even more entrenched with them and hence with even more to lose at their whim.
- Aloha 5y ago
  I will literally go pay someone else more money a year, than pay google for the same services, because of how difficult they make it difficult to migrate my data out.
  - drivebycomment 5y ago
    I am curious which other provider has a better, easier migration. Any particular you can recommend ?
- anticensor 5y ago
  Paid gmail.com would be commercially equivalent to a wholesale prepaid deal for Google searches.

nighthawk454 5y ago

Not _absolutely_ roped in, but practically, yes. The cost of switching is ridiculously higher than the cost of just paying up - it's not a realistic option. Which, considering they also control how hard it is to switch, is a bit artificial. It would be a little different if they did this to _everyone_ and completely removed the free @gmail plans. But instead they're targeting GSuite users when @gmail plans are _right there_, because they know they can get it. Honestly, if it weren't for the alternatives setting somewhat of a market price, little could stop them from charging triple. The only comparable plan is the lowest tier of 4 tiers as it is, and I doubt it's gonna get _cheaper_ over time.

fragmede 5y ago
Not really - that was the whole point of getting my own domain, so I could move it over if something like this ever happened. Mail to me gets sent to user@domain.name, both before and after the switch. You can argue the other services like google drive and docs are harder to move, and that's true, but those also have their own alternatives that aren't quite as reliant as email is in having the same user@domain.name forever.
- nighthawk454 5y ago
  No, the domain is irrelevant now. Technically, I can keep my email going to my own domain. But this is the least of my concerns. The only "way out" is to completely de-Google-ify. But short of that I pretty much have to pay them. The entire Google account will be suspended unless there's payment. I'd have to audit everything my Google accounts are used for, find alternatives, train users on the N new services, and deal with all the migrations. Which frankly is impractical. Some stuff is not easily migrate-able (YouTube subs/history, Android purchases, ...), and unless I don't need a Google account again ever, I'll probably end up migrating to an @gmail one at least partially. But at least I keep the domain?? Which I'd then be paying a mail provider about the same amount for. Plus probably more for any other paid services. To say nothing of convincing and migrating my family/other users. If I could only keep the Google account going with my own mail/services that'd be something. They say I "may" retain access to YouTube and Photos, for now. And the account will be in a 'suspended' state that requires payment to get out of. It's not exactly a surprise, and I know "that's what I get" for using Google services. But it's still scummy.
  - richdougherty 5y ago
    I completely agree. I'm running through my head thinking of all the things in my domain account. Email archive/filters/rules, contacts, calendar, docs (mine and things shared with me), Drive, photos, Play purchases, Google One subscription for extra space, Android, Google Cloud. Then I have stuff on a plain @gmail account that didn't work with my domain account - family library, links. That was already annoying. Don't want to mess that up either. Should I merge the accounts or create a new @gmail account to hold everything? My estimate is that it will take days of migration/backup/testing to move over, then extra time to ironing out issues that crop up. Hopefully I don't lose any content or purchases... Even with email forwarding I believe I'll lose cosmetic things like using your domain as the owner of calendar invites, photo sharing, etc. This is for 1 email account/domain only. I think I'll probably pay up.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    This is that moment where I feel really good about always making sure I didn't use my custom email domain address as a google account, and have maintained a gmail.com account all along to serve that role. So for my situation, I can just use IMAP to move the mail to a new provider. Easy peasy.
  - evilduck 5y ago
    To be fair to yourself, you signed up for one of these grandfathered plans before Google became a toxic brand.
sundarurfriend 5y ago
> The cost of switching is ridiculously higher than the cost of just paying up - it's not a realistic option. On "the cost of just paying up" side, also tally up the cost of dealing with whatever other shenanigans Google decides to pull later; knowing that you will be equally powerless and option-limited at that time too, and even more entrenched with them and hence with even more to lose at their whim.
Aloha 5y ago
I will literally go pay someone else more money a year, than pay google for the same services, because of how difficult they make it difficult to migrate my data out.
- drivebycomment 5y ago
  I am curious which other provider has a better, easier migration. Any particular you can recommend ?
anticensor 5y ago
Paid gmail.com would be commercially equivalent to a wholesale prepaid deal for Google searches.