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Hopefully the consumer marketshare has some influence on business decisions, which might make it worthwile for them to keep non-business customers. This kind of

by yccs27 5y ago

Hopefully the consumer marketshare has some influence on business decisions, which might make it worthwile for them to keep non-business customers. This kind of strategy certainly works for some professional software, which is often even free for students.

wlesieutre 5y ago
I suspect 1Password sees features like iCloud Keychain coming and is trying to grow into other markets because a "good enough" built-in password manager will significantly decrease their value proposition in the consumer space. Not great if you like their product as a consumer, but 1Password's biggest feature differentiator right now is better family sharing than iOS provides. That could easily change in a future iOS version, and then it's suddenly a lot harder for 1Password to grow by selling a $60/year password manager subscription. Enterprise features on the other hand, that's not something that OS vendors are likely to ship. While I don't like the newer versions of Dropbox as much as the old ones, I can understand how pressure from iCloud and OneDrive pushed them toward enterprise features over consumer users.
- indymike 5y ago
  > Enterprise features on the other hand, that's not something that OS vendors are likely to ship. Maybe not on Mac, but MS will probably try.
  - wlesieutre 5y ago
    If anything I'd bet on MS sticking it into their Office subscription, not Windows itself. So 1Password will be up against iCloud Keychain from Apple and Microsoft Passwords 365 on the enterprise front.
    - indymike 5y ago
      You are probably right.
halostatue 5y ago
Count on it. Unlike many _other_ product companies, they all dogwood their own code. Also, IIRC all members of a team account are given a family account for their own use (you’d obviously have to convert if you separate from the company), so they are building for _people_.

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Hopefully the consumer marketshare has some influence on business decisions, which might make it worthwile for them to keep non-business customers. This kind of

by yccs27 5y ago

wlesieutre 5y ago
I suspect 1Password sees features like iCloud Keychain coming and is trying to grow into other markets because a "good enough" built-in password manager will significantly decrease their value proposition in the consumer space. Not great if you like their product as a consumer, but 1Password's biggest feature differentiator right now is better family sharing than iOS provides. That could easily change in a future iOS version, and then it's suddenly a lot harder for 1Password to grow by selling a $60/year password manager subscription. Enterprise features on the other hand, that's not something that OS vendors are likely to ship. While I don't like the newer versions of Dropbox as much as the old ones, I can understand how pressure from iCloud and OneDrive pushed them toward enterprise features over consumer users.
- indymike 5y ago
  > Enterprise features on the other hand, that's not something that OS vendors are likely to ship. Maybe not on Mac, but MS will probably try.
  - wlesieutre 5y ago
    If anything I'd bet on MS sticking it into their Office subscription, not Windows itself. So 1Password will be up against iCloud Keychain from Apple and Microsoft Passwords 365 on the enterprise front.
    - indymike 5y ago
      You are probably right.
halostatue 5y ago
Count on it. Unlike many _other_ product companies, they all dogwood their own code. Also, IIRC all members of a team account are given a family account for their own use (you’d obviously have to convert if you separate from the company), so they are building for _people_.