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Pet trusts: It is sad how pets are treated like kings, compared to people - but is easy to see why Made me think of this thread, no wonder people want to walk

by mgh2 5y ago

Pet trusts: It is sad how pets are treated like kings, compared to people - but is easy to see why Made me think of this thread, no wonder people want to walk dogs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29867290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29867290

throwawaynay 5y ago
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  I see a lot of people sleeping on the floor, outside, without any food. And, since you brought it up, also with mental disabilities.
  - cgriswald 5y ago
    The collective we still treats dogs a lot worse than we treat the homeless. That's even discounting questions of agency, which I don't think can be discounted. These threads really seem to be: "Look at how well this dog is treated in comparison to some homeless person," which provides a view that is a general condemnation that we don't do as much as we could in general—but not at all evidence that pets have it better. We don't really treat homeless animals better than people, and there are orders of magnitude more homeless animals even though we euthanize them in huge numbers.
- dang 5y ago
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0x77x66 5y ago
No doubt - In SF, the elite treat their dogs better than the working class. I use to live in next to a doggie day care that cost +$1000/month.
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netule 5y ago
It's a bit of a false equivalence, no? People who treat their pets well aren't necessarily the same people who treat others badly. These two things aren't mutually exclusive.
- mgh2 5y ago
  Maybe, just generally pointing out the discrepancy.
  - dymk 5y ago
    Unless people who treat their pets well also treat other humans badly, there is no discrepancy
    - mgh2 5y ago
      Interesting, is this also an assumption? I can totally see people put their children and interests ahead at the expense of others, the "selfish gene". Just extrapolating, humans are not the most morally consistent creatures.

by mgh2 5y ago

throwawaynay 5y ago

spywaregorilla 5y ago
I see a lot of people sleeping on the floor, outside, without any food. And, since you brought it up, also with mental disabilities.
- cgriswald 5y ago
  The collective we still treats dogs a lot worse than we treat the homeless. That's even discounting questions of agency, which I don't think can be discounted. These threads really seem to be: "Look at how well this dog is treated in comparison to some homeless person," which provides a view that is a general condemnation that we don't do as much as we could in general—but not at all evidence that pets have it better. We don't really treat homeless animals better than people, and there are orders of magnitude more homeless animals even though we euthanize them in huge numbers.
dang 5y ago
We ban accounts that post like this. Please follow the site guidelines, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

0x77x66 5y ago

No doubt - In SF, the elite treat their dogs better than the working class. I use to live in next to a doggie day care that cost +$1000/month.

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netule 5y ago

It's a bit of a false equivalence, no? People who treat their pets well aren't necessarily the same people who treat others badly. These two things aren't mutually exclusive.

mgh2 5y ago
Maybe, just generally pointing out the discrepancy.
- dymk 5y ago
  Unless people who treat their pets well also treat other humans badly, there is no discrepancy
  - mgh2 5y ago
    Interesting, is this also an assumption? I can totally see people put their children and interests ahead at the expense of others, the "selfish gene". Just extrapolating, humans are not the most morally consistent creatures.