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Is this for real? I've not received that email from Google. If so, I guess it's time to setup my own mailserver. I've been meaning to do it for a long while no

Is this for real? I've not received that email from Google. If so, I guess it's time to setup my own mailserver. I've been meaning to do it for a long while now anyway, as I'm not comfortable with the thought that Google is data-harvesting all my and my family's emails. But with mailservers being notoriously difficult to setup and configure securely, I keep putting it off. Time to get reading a few tutorials, methinks. Can anyone recommend a good lightweight email server [I have less than a dozen email accounts on my domain] and a useful tutorial on setting it all up securely? Incidentally, I run email accounts on some of my other domains, using Yandex Mail for Domains [0] which [at least last time I checked] was still free. Im slightly dubious about using it for my main domain though as I've found delivery to be less than 100% reliable. In the past, I've had one or two emails disappear completely. Yandex's own mail logs showed them being received, but they never showed up in my inbox or any of my other folders. I suspect Yandex have a slightly over-eager server level spam filter, which ate them before they ever reached my inbox. But Yandex's support are generally useless and were unable to tell me what had become of the emails in question, even when I presented them with their own mail log. [0] https://yandex.com/support/connect/add-domain.html https://yandex.com/support/connect/add-domain.html

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wayoutthere 5y ago
Email is increasingly difficult to do yourself with the proliferation of anti-spam and anti-malware protection, combined with consolidated usage of SaaS apps for email across the board. Most of the IP address space in AWS and Azure is blacklisted by spam filters (as is customer IP space from most ISPs if they don’t already filter SMTP traffic), so unless you want to roll the dice on config settings for everyone you send email to, you’re generally going to need an authenticated relay for outgoing mail — and your best option will be one of the big cloud providers. If you want a secure mail service that won’t read your email, try ProtonMail.
- derekp7 5y ago
  You can set up an email server to receive mail typically (assuming your ISP doesn't block it). For outbound mail, you can create a dedicated regular gmail address, and instruct it to accept sending emails out with an alternate email/domain in the From address and set up all outbound mail to route through that. (I haven't tried this yet, but it looks like all the pieces are there under the "send mail as" setting on gmail).
  - Denatonium 5y ago
    This works, but when people receive your emails, they'll show up as "From: yourname@example.com via gmail.com"
    - alanfranz 5y ago
      You can setup an external smtp to prevent that, using amazon ses or another provider (eg where you register your domain, like gandi)
- seanw444 5y ago
  Everyone is so attached to big tech on all levels that no matter how hard you try to escape, it all comes right back. You can set up your own mail server and still get screwed over. So sick of it. I'd honestly rather roll the dice on emails than contribute to the monopolization.
- rkagerer 5y ago
  If you want something lightweight try SpamHero. Not quite as good as Postini was, but unfortunately Google bought and killed the latter.
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sedan_baklazhan 5y ago
Very easy with maininabox.email.
tyingq 5y ago
>Yandex Mail for Domains [0] which [at least last time I checked] was still free It looks like it's not free anymore. I used to see a free plan, now there are only paid ones.
- mikevo 5y ago
  It's still free, the link is a bit "hidden" under the paid options
  - lmz 5y ago
    Does this even work for non-Russian businesses? I tried to register a business in "Yandex 360" and it asks for a Russian phone number and some identity numbers?
Normille 5y ago
UPDATE: Well, I've still not received that email from Google and, when I log into my Gsuite admin account, it's still showing "You are on the G Suite legacy free-of-charge edition. Consider upgrading to Google Workspace Business Starter." at the top of the Admin Console page. And, underneath: Plan details Payment plan -- Free plan Licences -- 88 available, 12 assigned Estimated monthly bill --Free edition (no charges) So, either that article was a spoof, or Google are rolling this out gradually.

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wayoutthere 5y ago

Email is increasingly difficult to do yourself with the proliferation of anti-spam and anti-malware protection, combined with consolidated usage of SaaS apps for email across the board. Most of the IP address space in AWS and Azure is blacklisted by spam filters (as is customer IP space from most ISPs if they don’t already filter SMTP traffic), so unless you want to roll the dice on config settings for everyone you send email to, you’re generally going to need an authenticated relay for outgoing mail — and your best option will be one of the big cloud providers. If you want a secure mail service that won’t read your email, try ProtonMail.

derekp7 5y ago
You can set up an email server to receive mail typically (assuming your ISP doesn't block it). For outbound mail, you can create a dedicated regular gmail address, and instruct it to accept sending emails out with an alternate email/domain in the From address and set up all outbound mail to route through that. (I haven't tried this yet, but it looks like all the pieces are there under the "send mail as" setting on gmail).
- Denatonium 5y ago
  This works, but when people receive your emails, they'll show up as "From: yourname@example.com via gmail.com"
  - alanfranz 5y ago
    You can setup an external smtp to prevent that, using amazon ses or another provider (eg where you register your domain, like gandi)
seanw444 5y ago
Everyone is so attached to big tech on all levels that no matter how hard you try to escape, it all comes right back. You can set up your own mail server and still get screwed over. So sick of it. I'd honestly rather roll the dice on emails than contribute to the monopolization.
rkagerer 5y ago
If you want something lightweight try SpamHero. Not quite as good as Postini was, but unfortunately Google bought and killed the latter.
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sedan_baklazhan 5y ago

Very easy with maininabox.email.

tyingq 5y ago

>Yandex Mail for Domains [0] which [at least last time I checked] was still free It looks like it's not free anymore. I used to see a free plan, now there are only paid ones.

mikevo 5y ago
It's still free, the link is a bit "hidden" under the paid options
- lmz 5y ago
  Does this even work for non-Russian businesses? I tried to register a business in "Yandex 360" and it asks for a Russian phone number and some identity numbers?

Normille 5y ago

UPDATE: Well, I've still not received that email from Google and, when I log into my Gsuite admin account, it's still showing "You are on the G Suite legacy free-of-charge edition. Consider upgrading to Google Workspace Business Starter." at the top of the Admin Console page. And, underneath: Plan details Payment plan -- Free plan Licences -- 88 available, 12 assigned Estimated monthly bill --Free edition (no charges) So, either that article was a spoof, or Google are rolling this out gradually.