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Yeah.. you are being dishonest right now. He clearly said in my [3] image it doesn't qualify as genocide since the economist said so. And the thread he endorse

by yonixw 5y ago

Yeah.. you are being dishonest right now. He clearly said in my [3] image it doesn't qualify as genocide since the economist said so. And the thread he endorse is so bizarre. Because the USA hurt Muslim before they need to keep silent now when other do it? Who would say that other than people who doesn't care.. if it isn't the best giveaway of all. So I gave you a clear proof that a person, a cofounder of a big left alternative media, is clearly a inconsistent tankie who endorse China fully while criticize Israel. I don't care some fact are true. There are a lot of nice facts about Israel too. And I don't care if there are honest tankies. In the original comment you said you don't know anybody like that. Now you know. and still ignore him.

tsimionescu 5y ago
> He clearly said in my [3] image it doesn't qualify as genocide since the economist said so. So parroting the line of the Economist and US state department makes you a tankie? > Because the USA hurt Muslim before they need to keep silent now when other do it? The thread doesn't say they should keep silent, it says they should not apply sanctions (and obviously should not use military force) against China. > So I gave you a clear proof that a person, a cofounder of a big left alternative media, is clearly a inconsistent tankie who endorse China fully while criticize Israel. I still don't see him as endorsing China. Anyway, I concede that the people he attracted in his comments are indeed examples of tankies, and I also found this Gray Media site that fulfills the description you gave. Still, I will not concede that this is in any way a mainstream opinion in leftist circles. It is a fringe position, and the vast majority of Leftists in Europe and the Americas are generally against all oppressive regimes, including China and Israel occupation of Palestine. Most are much more vocal against human rights abuses than industrialists and billionaires, who could care less as long as their pockets are secure. The only exception is global warming, where the left realistically sees that China is doing about as well as most industrial countries, and much, much better than the USA. To be fair, I think Israel is also decent on this front, but that is much easier for such a tiny country.
- yonixw 5y ago
  This comment is so bad faith... anyway, here is a full subreddit with Pro China, Anti Israel: https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/ https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/.

by yonixw 5y ago

tsimionescu 5y ago

> He clearly said in my [3] image it doesn't qualify as genocide since the economist said so. So parroting the line of the Economist and US state department makes you a tankie? > Because the USA hurt Muslim before they need to keep silent now when other do it? The thread doesn't say they should keep silent, it says they should not apply sanctions (and obviously should not use military force) against China. > So I gave you a clear proof that a person, a cofounder of a big left alternative media, is clearly a inconsistent tankie who endorse China fully while criticize Israel. I still don't see him as endorsing China. Anyway, I concede that the people he attracted in his comments are indeed examples of tankies, and I also found this Gray Media site that fulfills the description you gave. Still, I will not concede that this is in any way a mainstream opinion in leftist circles. It is a fringe position, and the vast majority of Leftists in Europe and the Americas are generally against all oppressive regimes, including China and Israel occupation of Palestine. Most are much more vocal against human rights abuses than industrialists and billionaires, who could care less as long as their pockets are secure. The only exception is global warming, where the left realistically sees that China is doing about as well as most industrial countries, and much, much better than the USA. To be fair, I think Israel is also decent on this front, but that is much easier for such a tiny country.

yonixw 5y ago
This comment is so bad faith... anyway, here is a full subreddit with Pro China, Anti Israel: https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/ https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/.