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Bitwarden free edition is free. The free edition is crippled and doesn't support Yubikey among other things.

toyg 5y ago
"Crippled" is a big word. It does everything that KeePass would do, for example; it only falls short when it comes to sharing passwords among a group or family (you can send a secret via BW Send, but you cannot have a shared store unless you pay for Premium). Yubikey and its likes are advanced features that the overwhelming majority of regular users will never need.
- wutwutwutwut 5y ago
  It is? I thouht it was the proper word to use to describe software which has limited features in free version so they can sell commercial licenses.
  - borski 5y ago
    “Limited” is better. “Crippled” has a negative connotation when it comes to software.
    - wutwutwutwut 5y ago
      Then crippled seems like the perfect word.
      - toyg 5y ago
        "Crippled" implies a degree of everyday suffering in the "cripple", or a downgrade from a previous state of health. The advanced features in Bitwarden were never free, in fact I think some of them were eventually added to free plans too. I honestly don't even want stuff like yubikey support, and could see that as feature bloat! I don't expect everything to be free, I'm perfectly fine with the freemium model when the set of free features is reasonable - as, in my humble opinion, is the case with Bitwarden. So I wouldn't use a word like "crippled" when it's more like "normal for regular users vs enhanced for advanced needs".
ziml77 5y ago
I thought that it had all the same features, just not cloud sync. As far as I know the Yubikey is used for authenticating with their sync server. It doesn't actually help with the encryption
- commoner 5y ago
  Bitwarden's free plan does have end-to-end encrypted cloud sync with no device limit. The free plan lacks TOTP support, but Bitwarden's $10/year plan does include TOTP support and is cheaper than 1Password's $35.88/year plan. Bitwarden is also open source, while 1Password is not.
  - wutwutwutwut 5y ago
    Bitwarden free has TOTP.
    - commoner 5y ago
      I'm referring to Bitwarden Authenticator, which stores TOTP secrets and displays 6-digit codes like Google Authenticator does.[1] This feature requires a Bitwarden Premium account, with the $10/year plan being the cheapest option.[2] (Self-hosting through Vaultwarden is another option.[3]) This is separate from having TOTP 2FA on the Bitwarden account itself, which is available on the free plan.[4] [1] https://bitwarden.com/help/authenticator-keys/ https://bitwarden.com/help/authenticator-keys/ [2] https://bitwarden.com/pricing/ https://bitwarden.com/pricing/ [3] https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden [4] https://bitwarden.com/help/setup-two-step-login/ https://bitwarden.com/help/setup-two-step-login/

toyg 5y ago

"Crippled" is a big word. It does everything that KeePass would do, for example; it only falls short when it comes to sharing passwords among a group or family (you can send a secret via BW Send, but you cannot have a shared store unless you pay for Premium). Yubikey and its likes are advanced features that the overwhelming majority of regular users will never need.

wutwutwutwut 5y ago
It is? I thouht it was the proper word to use to describe software which has limited features in free version so they can sell commercial licenses.
- borski 5y ago
  “Limited” is better. “Crippled” has a negative connotation when it comes to software.
  - wutwutwutwut 5y ago
    Then crippled seems like the perfect word.
    - toyg 5y ago
      "Crippled" implies a degree of everyday suffering in the "cripple", or a downgrade from a previous state of health. The advanced features in Bitwarden were never free, in fact I think some of them were eventually added to free plans too. I honestly don't even want stuff like yubikey support, and could see that as feature bloat! I don't expect everything to be free, I'm perfectly fine with the freemium model when the set of free features is reasonable - as, in my humble opinion, is the case with Bitwarden. So I wouldn't use a word like "crippled" when it's more like "normal for regular users vs enhanced for advanced needs".

ziml77 5y ago

I thought that it had all the same features, just not cloud sync. As far as I know the Yubikey is used for authenticating with their sync server. It doesn't actually help with the encryption

commoner 5y ago
Bitwarden's free plan does have end-to-end encrypted cloud sync with no device limit. The free plan lacks TOTP support, but Bitwarden's $10/year plan does include TOTP support and is cheaper than 1Password's $35.88/year plan. Bitwarden is also open source, while 1Password is not.
- wutwutwutwut 5y ago
  Bitwarden free has TOTP.
  - commoner 5y ago
    I'm referring to Bitwarden Authenticator, which stores TOTP secrets and displays 6-digit codes like Google Authenticator does.[1] This feature requires a Bitwarden Premium account, with the $10/year plan being the cheapest option.[2] (Self-hosting through Vaultwarden is another option.[3]) This is separate from having TOTP 2FA on the Bitwarden account itself, which is available on the free plan.[4] [1] https://bitwarden.com/help/authenticator-keys/ https://bitwarden.com/help/authenticator-keys/ [2] https://bitwarden.com/pricing/ https://bitwarden.com/pricing/ [3] https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden [4] https://bitwarden.com/help/setup-two-step-login/ https://bitwarden.com/help/setup-two-step-login/