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Well, Hashicorp stands on many legs and they don't have much competition in many areas as theirs solutions are pretty unique...

by kmac_ 5y ago

rco8786 5y ago
Their solutions are unique but the problems they are solving are not, they are in direct overlap with where 1P is going.
- sleepybrett 5y ago
  I've watched three different teams fail to get vault up and running in any kind of a sustainable way. If they could solve that problem and add a desktop client they could crush 1password in this space. Probably wouldn't hurt that tons of software engineers are absolutely pissed at their moves in the consumer space recently.
  - ma2011ma 5y ago
    sleepybrett; which three are you talking about? and how?
  - atonse 5y ago
    As a (paying) Hashicorp customer, my #1 problem is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of talent out there that actually knows how to use these tools and is deeply experienced in them. And they are all critical pieces of infrastructure. I am very nervous to run a business critical site and store all its secrets in Vault, service discovery in Consul, and containers in Nomad (even though I really like all 3 and they've worked well so far) because we've had a couple of catastrophic cluster crashes where none of us had a clue how to recover without downtime and data loss. (Fortunately they happened in QA but it has delayed our production rollout of this infrastructure) And I still don't have access to an "expert" – apart from one vendor who seems to know it inside out but is extremely expensive. So there isn't much of a choice. So then there are two things I can do: become that expert and add that to our business offerings, or abandon the stack since it's too risky to be stuck with it. I don't want to make the mistake I made with Ember.js (nobody really knows it, it's beyond dead outside of a half dozen fortune 500 companies). I don't think that'll happen with Vault etc cuz they really are great products and ideas. But it is a concern. Hashicorp must know this, which is why they are betting big on HCP. I'd gladly pay for the uptime of these components to be their problem. And I am paying.
- bradwood 5y ago
  Cue 1P - Hashicorp merger conversation

Well, Hashicorp stands on many legs and they don't have much competition in many areas as theirs solutions are pretty unique...

by kmac_ 5y ago

Well, Hashicorp stands on many legs and they don't have much competition in many areas as theirs solutions are pretty unique...

rco8786 5y ago

Their solutions are unique but the problems they are solving are not, they are in direct overlap with where 1P is going.

sleepybrett 5y ago
I've watched three different teams fail to get vault up and running in any kind of a sustainable way. If they could solve that problem and add a desktop client they could crush 1password in this space. Probably wouldn't hurt that tons of software engineers are absolutely pissed at their moves in the consumer space recently.
- ma2011ma 5y ago
  sleepybrett; which three are you talking about? and how?
- atonse 5y ago
  As a (paying) Hashicorp customer, my #1 problem is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of talent out there that actually knows how to use these tools and is deeply experienced in them. And they are all critical pieces of infrastructure. I am very nervous to run a business critical site and store all its secrets in Vault, service discovery in Consul, and containers in Nomad (even though I really like all 3 and they've worked well so far) because we've had a couple of catastrophic cluster crashes where none of us had a clue how to recover without downtime and data loss. (Fortunately they happened in QA but it has delayed our production rollout of this infrastructure) And I still don't have access to an "expert" – apart from one vendor who seems to know it inside out but is extremely expensive. So there isn't much of a choice. So then there are two things I can do: become that expert and add that to our business offerings, or abandon the stack since it's too risky to be stuck with it. I don't want to make the mistake I made with Ember.js (nobody really knows it, it's beyond dead outside of a half dozen fortune 500 companies). I don't think that'll happen with Vault etc cuz they really are great products and ideas. But it is a concern. Hashicorp must know this, which is why they are betting big on HCP. I'd gladly pay for the uptime of these components to be their problem. And I am paying.
bradwood 5y ago
Cue 1P - Hashicorp merger conversation