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> It’s likely that a country with a UBI will have better paying low level jobs even adjusting for tax action than a country without. You think a UBI will incre

> It’s likely that a country with a UBI will have better paying low level jobs even adjusting for tax action than a country without. You think a UBI will increase total after-tax purchasing power for above-average earners (i.e. those paying more in taxes to support the UBI than they receive in UBI) compared to not having the UBI? I would be very interested to see how you came to that conclusion as it seems inherently contradictory. > But immigrants tend to be seeking a better life which is generally why they became immigrants in the first place. I'm not disagreeing with that at all. I'm just saying that I don't see countries with UBIs being very attractive to these kinds of immigrants. For the same amount of work they would be better off somewhere else where they can keep a larger share of the fruits of their labor rather than paying to support others who aren't as motivated.

Retric 5y ago
> You think a UBI will increase total after-tax purchasing power for above-average earners (i.e. those paying more in taxes to support the UBI than they receive in UBI) compared to not having the UBI? I would be very interested to see how you came to that conclusion as it seems inherently contradictory. Not will, can. Also, the comparison point is other countries not the same country before and after UBI. UBI doesn’t exist in a vacuum, I doubt poor countries would set one up. A country could set one up specifically because the benefits in say reduced crime outweigh the tax burden. But the kind of country which is rich enough to make that choice is also the kind of country rich and stable enough to attract a highly skilled and motivated immigrants. Or such a country could tightly control immigration, biasing it toward high incomes etc. In other words you can’t assume anything about such a system without knowing how and by whom it’s implemented.

Retric 5y ago

> You think a UBI will increase total after-tax purchasing power for above-average earners (i.e. those paying more in taxes to support the UBI than they receive in UBI) compared to not having the UBI? I would be very interested to see how you came to that conclusion as it seems inherently contradictory. Not will, can. Also, the comparison point is other countries not the same country before and after UBI. UBI doesn’t exist in a vacuum, I doubt poor countries would set one up. A country could set one up specifically because the benefits in say reduced crime outweigh the tax burden. But the kind of country which is rich enough to make that choice is also the kind of country rich and stable enough to attract a highly skilled and motivated immigrants. Or such a country could tightly control immigration, biasing it toward high incomes etc. In other words you can’t assume anything about such a system without knowing how and by whom it’s implemented.