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1Password has the cloud, so maybe a better comparison would be bitwarden, not free (to use their hosted service) but FLOSS. Everything else stands, though ;)

the_duke 5y ago
Bitwarden is free for personal accounts.
lotsofpulp 5y ago
The cloud part of a password manager can easily be handled by any file sync service, which are free and indistinguishable in quality from 1password.
- a5aAqU 5y ago
  Maybe for technical people.
- paulryanrogers 5y ago
  Generally agree but there are important edges where that breaks down: shared vaults, one time access, posthominis access, etc.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Well played! It's like Dropbox all over again.
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abeppu 5y ago
But 1Password previously had the option to _not_ use their cloud, and they deliberately killed it to push people onto their subscription offering. So I think in the context of a conversation about how financial conditions will force changes which change the customer experience, I think it's entirely fair to compare them to a non-cloud option.
- dkonofalski 5y ago
  >they deliberately killed it to push people onto their subscription offering There are things available via the Cloud version that aren't available with local vaults and, in order to maintain those, they decided not to put the time into implementing those changes for local vaults. Local vault users are less than 1% of their user base.
  - deadbunny 5y ago
    How is that not deliberately pushing people to move to a subscription model?
    - dkonofalski 5y ago
      Parent comment said they killed it. They didn't kill it. You can still use local vaults currently. You won't be able to any more in newer versions because they're no longer at feature parity. Killing it to push people to the subscription model implies malice.
chaxor 5y ago
Wouldn't KeePass + syncthing be just as ubiquitously available, with more security?
- Semaphor 5y ago
  Yes, especially nowadays that sync errors are not commonplace. I use it with Nextcloud. But that still requires you setting up your own thing, which is why people like 1password and bitwarden.
wlesieutre 5y ago
Bitwarden has free hosted accounts, they just don't have all features enabled. Most notably, you can't store attachments.

the_duke 5y ago

Bitwarden is free for personal accounts.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

The cloud part of a password manager can easily be handled by any file sync service, which are free and indistinguishable in quality from 1password.

a5aAqU 5y ago
Maybe for technical people.
paulryanrogers 5y ago
Generally agree but there are important edges where that breaks down: shared vaults, one time access, posthominis access, etc.
rootusrootus 5y ago
Well played! It's like Dropbox all over again.
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abeppu 5y ago

But 1Password previously had the option to _not_ use their cloud, and they deliberately killed it to push people onto their subscription offering. So I think in the context of a conversation about how financial conditions will force changes which change the customer experience, I think it's entirely fair to compare them to a non-cloud option.

dkonofalski 5y ago
>they deliberately killed it to push people onto their subscription offering There are things available via the Cloud version that aren't available with local vaults and, in order to maintain those, they decided not to put the time into implementing those changes for local vaults. Local vault users are less than 1% of their user base.
- deadbunny 5y ago
  How is that not deliberately pushing people to move to a subscription model?
  - dkonofalski 5y ago
    Parent comment said they killed it. They didn't kill it. You can still use local vaults currently. You won't be able to any more in newer versions because they're no longer at feature parity. Killing it to push people to the subscription model implies malice.

chaxor 5y ago

Wouldn't KeePass + syncthing be just as ubiquitously available, with more security?

Semaphor 5y ago
Yes, especially nowadays that sync errors are not commonplace. I use it with Nextcloud. But that still requires you setting up your own thing, which is why people like 1password and bitwarden.

wlesieutre 5y ago

Bitwarden has free hosted accounts, they just don't have all features enabled. Most notably, you can't store attachments.