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This kind of announcement tends to ring all kinds of alarm bells for me. What kinds of changes should we expect to make those huge investments worthwhile for t

This kind of announcement tends to ring all kinds of alarm bells for me. What kinds of changes should we expect to make those huge investments worthwhile for the investors? My 1Password installation is grandfathered from a time when it was just a standalone app, without subscription. Will it just stop working one day to bully me into subscribing? Can you even start using 1Password these days without buying a subscription? I'll have to start looking for alternatives today.

deagle50 5y ago
Apparently v8 is subscription-only.
casenjo 5y ago
Unfortunately yes. You'll still be able to use your license but once that version becomes incompatible with your OS you won't have a choice but to upgrade. I'm disappointed I won't be able to keep the Dropbox sync in 1Password 8. They did have this survey to gauge interest in self hosting it: https://survey.1password.com/self-host/ https://survey.1password.com/self-host/
- MAGZine 5y ago
  The Dropbox integration to me became worthless after Dropbox limited the number of devices it would sync to on the free plan. If I can't have my passwords everywhere, then the value delivered drops off a cliff
  - frosted-flakes 5y ago
    You can sync local vaults any which way. I personally use Syncthing, but any file syncing service would work. On another note, I've been using 1Password for years, for free. The mobile app can edit local vaults without signing in, and the desktop program can view local vaults in read-only mode. If I want to edit or add a password, I do it on my phone—it's not worth $150+ to be able to do it on my PC a few times a year.
  - mdaniel 5y ago
    I don't have the old version installed anymore in order to check, but I thought that 1P only required that you authenticate to Dropbox (since the app just uses the Dropbox API for polling and to pull down changes), not that you turn on syncing. I mean, it's possible Dropbox is so sick they count a signin as a new device, but that would be a grave disappointment
    - grandpoobah 5y ago
      Legacy user here - It does not use the API, it just stores the vault in your Dropbox folder.
      - mdaniel 5y ago
        Interesting, because in the root of my Dropbox is ".ws.agile.1Password.settings" which is a plain text file containing the "Dropbox App" path of "Apps/1Password/1Password.opvault" and my understanding of that "Apps" folder in Dropbox is that integrations can write whatever they like to it, but not write outside of it I have a similar Apps folder for "O'Reilly" from back when I connected their app to Dropbox, and one for Joplin. It's too bad I don't have 1P 7 on my machine anymore, because I no longer have Dropbox on my machine so it would be a good test to see if it still syncs without the Dropbox client present
- ojilles 5y ago
  Filled it out, likely not to move any needles, but at least I did a thing. Thanks Casenjo for pointing out the survey.
antigirl 5y ago
still on version 6.8, so far so good on Mac Monterey

deagle50 5y ago

Apparently v8 is subscription-only.

casenjo 5y ago

Unfortunately yes. You'll still be able to use your license but once that version becomes incompatible with your OS you won't have a choice but to upgrade. I'm disappointed I won't be able to keep the Dropbox sync in 1Password 8. They did have this survey to gauge interest in self hosting it: https://survey.1password.com/self-host/ https://survey.1password.com/self-host/

MAGZine 5y ago
The Dropbox integration to me became worthless after Dropbox limited the number of devices it would sync to on the free plan. If I can't have my passwords everywhere, then the value delivered drops off a cliff
- frosted-flakes 5y ago
  You can sync local vaults any which way. I personally use Syncthing, but any file syncing service would work. On another note, I've been using 1Password for years, for free. The mobile app can edit local vaults without signing in, and the desktop program can view local vaults in read-only mode. If I want to edit or add a password, I do it on my phone—it's not worth $150+ to be able to do it on my PC a few times a year.
- mdaniel 5y ago
  I don't have the old version installed anymore in order to check, but I thought that 1P only required that you authenticate to Dropbox (since the app just uses the Dropbox API for polling and to pull down changes), not that you turn on syncing. I mean, it's possible Dropbox is so sick they count a signin as a new device, but that would be a grave disappointment
  - grandpoobah 5y ago
    Legacy user here - It does not use the API, it just stores the vault in your Dropbox folder.
    - mdaniel 5y ago
      Interesting, because in the root of my Dropbox is ".ws.agile.1Password.settings" which is a plain text file containing the "Dropbox App" path of "Apps/1Password/1Password.opvault" and my understanding of that "Apps" folder in Dropbox is that integrations can write whatever they like to it, but not write outside of it I have a similar Apps folder for "O'Reilly" from back when I connected their app to Dropbox, and one for Joplin. It's too bad I don't have 1P 7 on my machine anymore, because I no longer have Dropbox on my machine so it would be a good test to see if it still syncs without the Dropbox client present
ojilles 5y ago
Filled it out, likely not to move any needles, but at least I did a thing. Thanks Casenjo for pointing out the survey.

antigirl 5y ago

still on version 6.8, so far so good on Mac Monterey