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Can anyone talk me out of the Firefox password manager? It has a poor "general" use case for non-website passwords and treats mobile as a second-class satellite

Can anyone talk me out of the Firefox password manager? It has a poor "general" use case for non-website passwords and treats mobile as a second-class satellite, but it seems to just work and the sync between mobile and desktop is very handy. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ I read and understood just enough of this when it was published to know it would make the foundation an object of ridicule if it was ill-conceived, but I obviously rely on implementation details being tickety boo.

wasmitnetzen 5y ago
KeepassDX (Android) has a really nifty keyboard feature which allows you to even put passwords in apps, which the regular Firefox Sync doesn't support. Maybe that's the use case which makes you do the switch?
- chompychop 5y ago
  Do we need to toggle this feature somewhere in the settings? I use KeepassDX but I've never been asked by the app to auto-fill in passwords on websites or other apps.
  - wasmitnetzen 5y ago
    It's a separate keyboard, and needs to be enabled in the keyboard settings of Android. There's a link in the KeepassDX settings. There is a separate autofill feature, but that works quite rarely, maybe 10% of the apps support that, but that makes things even easier.
    - shudza 5y ago
      using chrome's manager and android 11 has native autofill for apps which works 100% so far
- verytrivial 5y ago
  Bouncing via the system clipboard does feel a little sketchy, yes. The other is the password generation feature is entirely missing on Android, so I need to use another good source of randomn characters or delay until I'm at my desktop. It's really only these two features that are missing for me, but since I create new password relatively rarely (once or twice a month), I find just having it there to be the winning feature. Also the 'copy these random files' as a back-up mechanism for disaster recover seems a bit ... like something I would design, so not great.
- KwanEsq 5y ago
  Firefox Android (and iOS it seems?) actually supports autofill for other apps, one just needs to enable it: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/end-of-support-firefox-lockwise https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/end-of-support-firefox-... (I've used it quite successfully when it was in a separate app called Lockwise)
jillesvangurp 5y ago
Use bitwarden (see related thread on HN today). Works great in Firefox, on mobile, Firefox mobile, etc. All synced. And it works in other browsers too.
ufo 5y ago
For me the main thing that stops me from using is poor support for non-website passwords, which you already mentioned. I also miss having a "notes" field where I can write down what email I used to sign up, or answers to security questions (I like having "fake" answers for those).

wasmitnetzen 5y ago

KeepassDX (Android) has a really nifty keyboard feature which allows you to even put passwords in apps, which the regular Firefox Sync doesn't support. Maybe that's the use case which makes you do the switch?

chompychop 5y ago
Do we need to toggle this feature somewhere in the settings? I use KeepassDX but I've never been asked by the app to auto-fill in passwords on websites or other apps.
- wasmitnetzen 5y ago
  It's a separate keyboard, and needs to be enabled in the keyboard settings of Android. There's a link in the KeepassDX settings. There is a separate autofill feature, but that works quite rarely, maybe 10% of the apps support that, but that makes things even easier.
  - shudza 5y ago
    using chrome's manager and android 11 has native autofill for apps which works 100% so far
verytrivial 5y ago
Bouncing via the system clipboard does feel a little sketchy, yes. The other is the password generation feature is entirely missing on Android, so I need to use another good source of randomn characters or delay until I'm at my desktop. It's really only these two features that are missing for me, but since I create new password relatively rarely (once or twice a month), I find just having it there to be the winning feature. Also the 'copy these random files' as a back-up mechanism for disaster recover seems a bit ... like something I would design, so not great.
KwanEsq 5y ago
Firefox Android (and iOS it seems?) actually supports autofill for other apps, one just needs to enable it: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/end-of-support-firefox-lockwise https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/end-of-support-firefox-... (I've used it quite successfully when it was in a separate app called Lockwise)

jillesvangurp 5y ago

Use bitwarden (see related thread on HN today). Works great in Firefox, on mobile, Firefox mobile, etc. All synced. And it works in other browsers too.

ufo 5y ago

For me the main thing that stops me from using is poor support for non-website passwords, which you already mentioned. I also miss having a "notes" field where I can write down what email I used to sign up, or answers to security questions (I like having "fake" answers for those).