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But it isn't true, I can see an equally likely scenario where Google has to offer its POI maps data to other search engines, making the overall search experienc

But it isn't true, I can see an equally likely scenario where Google has to offer its POI maps data to other search engines, making the overall search experience better, to stay competitive.

endisneigh 5y ago
That doesn’t make any sense. What precedent is there for this sort of action? Do we really want the government to be micro managing the features of online services?
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Precedent? What about Microsoft being forced not to cripple browsers other than IE in windows? That's the most prominent recent example. Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it makes no sense at all.
  - endisneigh 5y ago
    That's not the same as what the parent said at all. When has the government ever forced one company to offer data to another one?
    - ancientsofmumu 5y ago
      The Telecommunications Act of 1996 did just that, forcing data interoperability between the carriers. Thus, another key provision of the 1996 Act sets obligations for incumbent carriers and new entrants to interconnect their networks with one another, imposing additional requirements on the incumbents because they might desire to restrict competitive entry by denying such interconnection or by setting terms, conditions, and rates that could undermine the ability of the new entrants to compete. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
      - endisneigh 5y ago
        There's certainly no consensus that what it did was good, and interconnection isn't the same as forcing one provider to literally give data to another.
        webmaven 5y ago
        > There's certainly no consensus that what it did was good, and interconnection isn't the same as forcing one provider to literally give data to another. How about number portability?
        betwixthewires 5y ago
        What about just forcing them to open the API to search competitors?
    - srcreigh 5y ago
      Really, government loosening control of web browsers in windows is an indirect way of forcing MS to give data to other companies. With hindsight MS could have made all the same arguments we hear today about protecting users from invasive privacy violations involved in web browsers.
- ocdtrekkie 5y ago
  If I recall, the government required AOL Instant Messenger to operate as an interoperable system, which is why for a while, other messengers could talk back and forth with AIM. Imagine if the same quality government regulation required the same of Facebook Messenger or Twitter or Google Hangouts.

But it isn't true, I can see an equally likely scenario where Google has to offer its POI maps data to other search engines, making the overall search experience better, to stay competitive.

endisneigh 5y ago

That doesn’t make any sense. What precedent is there for this sort of action? Do we really want the government to be micro managing the features of online services?

betwixthewires 5y ago
Precedent? What about Microsoft being forced not to cripple browsers other than IE in windows? That's the most prominent recent example. Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it makes no sense at all.
- endisneigh 5y ago
  That's not the same as what the parent said at all. When has the government ever forced one company to offer data to another one?
  - ancientsofmumu 5y ago
    The Telecommunications Act of 1996 did just that, forcing data interoperability between the carriers. Thus, another key provision of the 1996 Act sets obligations for incumbent carriers and new entrants to interconnect their networks with one another, imposing additional requirements on the incumbents because they might desire to restrict competitive entry by denying such interconnection or by setting terms, conditions, and rates that could undermine the ability of the new entrants to compete. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
    - endisneigh 5y ago
      There's certainly no consensus that what it did was good, and interconnection isn't the same as forcing one provider to literally give data to another.
      - webmaven 5y ago
        > There's certainly no consensus that what it did was good, and interconnection isn't the same as forcing one provider to literally give data to another. How about number portability?
      - betwixthewires 5y ago
        What about just forcing them to open the API to search competitors?
  - srcreigh 5y ago
    Really, government loosening control of web browsers in windows is an indirect way of forcing MS to give data to other companies. With hindsight MS could have made all the same arguments we hear today about protecting users from invasive privacy violations involved in web browsers.
ocdtrekkie 5y ago
If I recall, the government required AOL Instant Messenger to operate as an interoperable system, which is why for a while, other messengers could talk back and forth with AIM. Imagine if the same quality government regulation required the same of Facebook Messenger or Twitter or Google Hangouts.