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In Oklahoma, anyone can sign up! No background check required. Today the governor said he's going to start moving other state employees into schools to sub...

In Oklahoma, anyone can sign up! No background check required. Today the governor said he's going to start moving other state employees into schools to sub... Our school district was asking parents to come in. I am fortunate to be able to keep my kid home because it's basically just babysitting at that point. When I send him, I'm making the decision to risk covid for education, having untrained random person watching my kid all day changes the outcome of the equation.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Today the governor said he's going to start moving other state employees into schools to sub... So, the idea is to spread the force accelerating retirements in education to the rest of the state workforce, while whining about the “labor shortage”?
- brimble 5y ago
  Yikes, considering how many of them are solidly in the "I make little enough that I could go almost anywhere else and do just as well or better" crowd, or are very good at resisting stupid requests using the bureaucracy's own rules, that's just begging for mass resignations and all sorts of resistance/malicious-compliance. The only thing that keeps the old-timers around is the retirement, and they're exactly the ones who know how to foot-drag your directive to death if you try to make them do something dumb. At least, if OK's state government works like ours, that's the situation. This will be fun to watch if they actually try it. [EDIT] I just looked it up and it seems like the idea is that state employees can optionally work as subs without losing their current pay, position, et c., not that they're being directed to. That's less crazy. [EDIT EDIT] Oh, never mind, they wouldn't get the sub pay on top of their normal state salary, just their state salary. Yeah, approximately zero people will do this unless they really hate their usual job. Not crazy, just pointless, then.
  - tfandango 5y ago
    Yes now that the EO has been written (it was announced before that), it's more clear. People can optionally do this meaning that the Gov can declare success over covid and nothing will actually happen. The striking part of all this is that the goal seems to keep schools open rather than keep educating kids. My son's high school has 400 kids out last week, that's about 45%. Yet the "important" thing is to keep the school doors unlocked which is the only factor used in determining total success. It doesn't actually matter if anyone is there or if anyone is being educated, or even if the "educator" is trained to educate in anyway. It's very frustrating to see your public schools constantly receive less and less over the years and then all of a sudden we need to fix the schools with random people showing up for a day here or there (and nobody shows up).

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Today the governor said he's going to start moving other state employees into schools to sub... So, the idea is to spread the force accelerating retirements in education to the rest of the state workforce, while whining about the “labor shortage”?

brimble 5y ago
Yikes, considering how many of them are solidly in the "I make little enough that I could go almost anywhere else and do just as well or better" crowd, or are very good at resisting stupid requests using the bureaucracy's own rules, that's just begging for mass resignations and all sorts of resistance/malicious-compliance. The only thing that keeps the old-timers around is the retirement, and they're exactly the ones who know how to foot-drag your directive to death if you try to make them do something dumb. At least, if OK's state government works like ours, that's the situation. This will be fun to watch if they actually try it. [EDIT] I just looked it up and it seems like the idea is that state employees can optionally work as subs without losing their current pay, position, et c., not that they're being directed to. That's less crazy. [EDIT EDIT] Oh, never mind, they wouldn't get the sub pay on top of their normal state salary, just their state salary. Yeah, approximately zero people will do this unless they really hate their usual job. Not crazy, just pointless, then.
- tfandango 5y ago
  Yes now that the EO has been written (it was announced before that), it's more clear. People can optionally do this meaning that the Gov can declare success over covid and nothing will actually happen. The striking part of all this is that the goal seems to keep schools open rather than keep educating kids. My son's high school has 400 kids out last week, that's about 45%. Yet the "important" thing is to keep the school doors unlocked which is the only factor used in determining total success. It doesn't actually matter if anyone is there or if anyone is being educated, or even if the "educator" is trained to educate in anyway. It's very frustrating to see your public schools constantly receive less and less over the years and then all of a sudden we need to fix the schools with random people showing up for a day here or there (and nobody shows up).