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As long at Tesla continues to willfully and fraudulently push a product called "Full Self Driving" -- onto a customer base they know to be largely naive and uns
by vanusa 5y ago
As long at Tesla continues to willfully and fraudulently push a product called "Full Self Driving" -- onto a customer base they know to be largely naive and unsophisticated -- they share responsibility for whatever death and carnage inevitably results from this cynical and manipulative course of action.
- JPKab 5y agoI'm always fascinated by this urge to push individual lapses and judgment onto large and wealthy entities. I own a Tesla Model 3 and I have chosen not to purchase the full self-driving package nor do I intend to rent it. I don't think the technology is worth it at this point to me personally. When you own the vehicle, it is very clear that the autopilot mode is simply a lane assist system. They have messages flashing all over the screen stating that it will not stop at stop signs or red lights. It's not like it's hidden from anybody and instead is blatantly displayed with no way to stop it from displaying every time it is activated. This driver was abusing a system that is meant to reduce fatigue. He should bear the consequences. Those of us who enjoy the reduction fatigue when driving from Denver to Omaha like I've had to do recently, should not have the feature disabled because of his irresponsibility.
- vanusa 5y agoDo you think the product name "Full Self Driving" has anything to do with reality?
- dml2135 5y agoTesla bears some responsibility, but it's also on an individual to sniff out bullshit when necessary, and not be gullible to the point of committing negligent homicide. When you operate heavy machinery, it's your responsibility to read the owner's manual, and not just listen to the marketing.
- idop 5y ago"Full Self Driving" means "Part Self Driving"? What a country!
- JPKab 5y agoHe wasn't using Full Self Driving, nor was he a customer. Autopilot != FSD. Autopilot comes with the vehicle. Full Self Driving is an add-on. He was on Autopilot. But let's not the facts or details stop us.
- vanusa 5y agoYou may answer the question, if you wish.
- lupire 5y agoThe customer base are rich and can take care of themselves. Everyone else on the road is who need to be protected.
- JPKab 5y agoThe product being used was not "Full Self Driving". He was using "Autopilot" which comes with the vehicle. FSD is a completely separate, and expensive, upgrade. Thoroughly enjoying the completely uninformed comments on this.
- TheCoelacanth 5y ago"Autopilot" is still highly misleading.
- thehappypm 5y agoMaybe to you. “Autopilot” is a term I don’t think has an incredibly clear meaning. Planes are known to have autopilot, but I think of it like “we’ve reached cruising altitude, going to point this bird at LGA and let the autopilot keep us on the right route”. I don’t know what the analogy would be for cars. Maybe something like adaptive cruise control plus lane keeping and auto braking?
- vanusa 5y agoThen call it "adaptive cruise control" and be done with it. There's only one reason they pick the term "autopilot" -- and that is to give people the impression that these cars have magical powers that they do not, in fact have. And until proven otherwise, most likely will never have.