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I have an ebook reader mount I attach to the rafters. If I want to watch TV I set my laptop on some storage containers far back from the treadmill and put in my

I have an ebook reader mount I attach to the rafters. If I want to watch TV I set my laptop on some storage containers far back from the treadmill and put in my airpods. In both cases I'm looking straight ahead. Looking down at the NordicTrack screen doesn't seem ergonomic or comfortable. I don't get this article. Edit: From 2 points to 0. And probably going to go negative LOL.

JasonFruit 5y ago
I don't think the article was about ergonomics or comfort, or about how to watch TV or read a book while on the treadmill. It was about buying a product that does certain things, and then having the company that made it change its functionality without your consent. The question is, should you or should you not have control of the products you buy?
- waffle_maniac 5y ago
  Those interviewed in the article seemed to imply reading a book or watching TV was a grand pleasure. I'm disagreeing with that sentiment. I've found even a slight curve of my neck creates a lot of discomfort especially when running or walking.
  - danShumway 5y ago
    > Those interviewed in the article seemed to imply reading a book or watching TV was a grand pleasure. I'm disagreeing with that sentiment. Right, but that's not really the point of the article. It's not positing a debate over whether or not people exist who would be uncomfortable curving their neck while running or walking. The article doesn't really care about that debate. It's asking whether or not people should have control of the products they buy. Imagine there's an article about a blender that stops working without manufacturer-approved ingredients, and someone says, "well I hate all of the recipes that people are making that aren't approved and I think they taste gross, so I don't understand what this article is about." In that scenario, we understand that the blender article is about consumer rights, not recipe tips, and whether or not someone personally likes what people are doing with their products isn't really important to that conversation. The treadmill article is about consumer rights, not ergonomics.
    - waffle_maniac 5y ago
      Asides are allowed on HN as far as I know.
  - cecilpl2 5y ago
    > I've found even a slight curve of my neck creates a lot of discomfort especially when running or walking. Just because you personally had this experience doesn't mean that everyone does.
    - waffle_maniac 5y ago
      Certainly. And those people are free to chime in as well. But people put up with a lot of bad shit to experience something. I know I have.
CamperBob2 5y ago
You're both right. It's outrageous that companies are allowed to get away with nerfing products you've already paid for by pulling new restrictions and limitations out of thin air... and it's also bad form to look down at an LCD panel on a treadmill while using it. 100% guarantee of a painful side stitch, at least for me.

JasonFruit 5y ago

I don't think the article was about ergonomics or comfort, or about how to watch TV or read a book while on the treadmill. It was about buying a product that does certain things, and then having the company that made it change its functionality without your consent. The question is, should you or should you not have control of the products you buy?

waffle_maniac 5y ago
Those interviewed in the article seemed to imply reading a book or watching TV was a grand pleasure. I'm disagreeing with that sentiment. I've found even a slight curve of my neck creates a lot of discomfort especially when running or walking.
- danShumway 5y ago
  > Those interviewed in the article seemed to imply reading a book or watching TV was a grand pleasure. I'm disagreeing with that sentiment. Right, but that's not really the point of the article. It's not positing a debate over whether or not people exist who would be uncomfortable curving their neck while running or walking. The article doesn't really care about that debate. It's asking whether or not people should have control of the products they buy. Imagine there's an article about a blender that stops working without manufacturer-approved ingredients, and someone says, "well I hate all of the recipes that people are making that aren't approved and I think they taste gross, so I don't understand what this article is about." In that scenario, we understand that the blender article is about consumer rights, not recipe tips, and whether or not someone personally likes what people are doing with their products isn't really important to that conversation. The treadmill article is about consumer rights, not ergonomics.
  - waffle_maniac 5y ago
    Asides are allowed on HN as far as I know.
- cecilpl2 5y ago
  > I've found even a slight curve of my neck creates a lot of discomfort especially when running or walking. Just because you personally had this experience doesn't mean that everyone does.
  - waffle_maniac 5y ago
    Certainly. And those people are free to chime in as well. But people put up with a lot of bad shit to experience something. I know I have.

CamperBob2 5y ago

You're both right. It's outrageous that companies are allowed to get away with nerfing products you've already paid for by pulling new restrictions and limitations out of thin air... and it's also bad form to look down at an LCD panel on a treadmill while using it. 100% guarantee of a painful side stitch, at least for me.