So C++ had existed for 10+ years by the time you started with it, right? I was still having to deal with Cfront-based compilers (the one on HP-UX, for example)

So C++ had existed for 10+ years by the time you started with it, right? I was still having to deal with Cfront-based compilers (the one on HP-UX, for example) in 2002 or so. Amusingly enough, it actually had really good error messages.