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Linux might be rare enough that they only make Windows machines and then have someone pull one out of the box put Linux on it if requested.

dzhiurgis 5y ago
It’s like why alcohol free beer costs almost same in NZ - because they have to take out alcohol!
- vanviegen 5y ago
  Sure, but you wouldn't pay any alcohol taxes, and the alcohol that's taken out can be used elsewhere. So production costs really ought to be lower. Volume might be lower too though.
- vagrantJin 5y ago
  That's why I find the power of ads and marketing truly fearsome. Why buy alcohol free alcoholic beverages?
  - dzhiurgis 5y ago
    It does taste nice and goes well with many foods. When Lithuania banned sales on Sunday after 3PM the sales of it skyrocketed. IIRC NZ grown 100% lately too. Many people choose it when they drive. I like my 9% IPA's but when I have to drive or there's bbq party middle of the day I'll go for low alcohol ones.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    If you like the taste but don't want the negative parts, or if you don't want alcohol but want to feel "included" ( e.g. muslims, recovering alcoholics or just people who don't like getting "buzzed").
    - vagrantJin 5y ago
      Included? If you've made the choice to not drink, is the next logical step to buy a non-alcoholic alcoholic beverage? Seems a bit more than silly.
      - sofixa 5y ago
        If you're with a group of people who drink alcoholic beverages, and you want to fit it, a non-alcoholic beer is probably better than a juice.
        dzhiurgis 5y ago
        Also works if you had too many, but still wanna drink beer. I know alcohol and logic doesn't mix.
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  Alcohol-free beers have their alcohol removed through vacuum distillation - the only reason it's not more expensive than beer is probably because there is no alcohol taxation on the product.
  - dzhiurgis 5y ago
    Alcohol is super expensive in NZ, exactly due to alcohol tax. Right now 12pack of 330ml alcohol free Heineken goes for $23 NZD while alcoholic one is $22. I remember paying €5 ($8 NZD) for 20pack or so of cheap stuff in Netherlands. Cost to manufacture is negligible, really. Probably smallest part when looking at bottling and distribution.

dzhiurgis 5y ago

It’s like why alcohol free beer costs almost same in NZ - because they have to take out alcohol!

vanviegen 5y ago
Sure, but you wouldn't pay any alcohol taxes, and the alcohol that's taken out can be used elsewhere. So production costs really ought to be lower. Volume might be lower too though.
vagrantJin 5y ago
That's why I find the power of ads and marketing truly fearsome. Why buy alcohol free alcoholic beverages?
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  It does taste nice and goes well with many foods. When Lithuania banned sales on Sunday after 3PM the sales of it skyrocketed. IIRC NZ grown 100% lately too. Many people choose it when they drive. I like my 9% IPA's but when I have to drive or there's bbq party middle of the day I'll go for low alcohol ones.
- sofixa 5y ago
  If you like the taste but don't want the negative parts, or if you don't want alcohol but want to feel "included" ( e.g. muslims, recovering alcoholics or just people who don't like getting "buzzed").
  - vagrantJin 5y ago
    Included? If you've made the choice to not drink, is the next logical step to buy a non-alcoholic alcoholic beverage? Seems a bit more than silly.
    - sofixa 5y ago
      If you're with a group of people who drink alcoholic beverages, and you want to fit it, a non-alcoholic beer is probably better than a juice.
      - dzhiurgis 5y ago
        Also works if you had too many, but still wanna drink beer. I know alcohol and logic doesn't mix.
formerly_proven 5y ago
Alcohol-free beers have their alcohol removed through vacuum distillation - the only reason it's not more expensive than beer is probably because there is no alcohol taxation on the product.
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  Alcohol is super expensive in NZ, exactly due to alcohol tax. Right now 12pack of 330ml alcohol free Heineken goes for $23 NZD while alcoholic one is $22. I remember paying €5 ($8 NZD) for 20pack or so of cheap stuff in Netherlands. Cost to manufacture is negligible, really. Probably smallest part when looking at bottling and distribution.