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> ... is you responsability as a parent to setup your child device to enter the correc tbirth date of the user, then the App Store could only allow the "kids" v

> ... is you responsability as a parent to setup your child device to enter the correc tbirth date of the user, then the App Store could only allow the "kids" version of the application. The problem is is that there is still a large portion of parents who will give their children devices despite being less educated on the dangers of online safety regarding children. I think that tech companies should ask parents whether they are buying a device for a child at the point of sale (since children are unlikely to purchase a device for themselves; instead they wish for a device for birthday/Christmas), and at that point, those companies should in some way inform those parents about the dangers of online use. Better yet (though could further complicate the process of distributing devices) is to give the option for parents to set up parental controls while they are in the process of purchasing a device. Implementing parental controls (which tech companies have largely done) that allows for parents to monitor their childrens' devices seems to be the only viable way to allow for both CSAM mitigation and end-to-end encryption to coexist, in my opinion.

zarzavat 5y ago
> The problem is is that there is still a large portion of parents who will give their children devices despite being less educated on the dangers of online safety regarding children. Mightn't those parents be right? IMO it's more important that children use E2E so that their information doesn't fall into the wrong hands. Otherwise it will be sitting in some government database for the rest of their lives. The real predators live in a doughnut shaped building.
simion314 5y ago
>The problem is is that there is still a large portion of parents who will give their children devices despite being less educated on the dangers of online safety regarding children. The government could educate, in my country there are a lot of informational on radio/TV like "drink at least 2L of water" , we need to attempt to solve the problem very close to it's roots. Like why should I click "I am 18" over and over again, the OS should know my age , the browser should ask my OS and if a parent setup correctly the device then the browser would refuse to load this website (the website would put somewhere in headers the age restrictions). Honestly I do not see how removing encryption helps children, if you do it wrong you might even make it possible for people to now spy on children,

zarzavat 5y ago

> The problem is is that there is still a large portion of parents who will give their children devices despite being less educated on the dangers of online safety regarding children. Mightn't those parents be right? IMO it's more important that children use E2E so that their information doesn't fall into the wrong hands. Otherwise it will be sitting in some government database for the rest of their lives. The real predators live in a doughnut shaped building.

simion314 5y ago

>The problem is is that there is still a large portion of parents who will give their children devices despite being less educated on the dangers of online safety regarding children. The government could educate, in my country there are a lot of informational on radio/TV like "drink at least 2L of water" , we need to attempt to solve the problem very close to it's roots. Like why should I click "I am 18" over and over again, the OS should know my age , the browser should ask my OS and if a parent setup correctly the device then the browser would refuse to load this website (the website would put somewhere in headers the age restrictions). Honestly I do not see how removing encryption helps children, if you do it wrong you might even make it possible for people to now spy on children,