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You've got some interesting points there, but I think that the reaction some people have to the idea that they might be deterministic is actually to do with dua
by kybernetikos 5y ago
You've got some interesting points there, but I think that the reaction some people have to the idea that they might be deterministic is actually to do with dualism and not free will. People try to pull free will into the dualism debate because they are desperately looking for reasons to back up their feeling that they are essentially more than pure material. I don't think that these two topics really have much to do with each other, which I think can be seen by looking at what people really mean when they actually talk about free choice and free will in everyday life rather than in philosophical conversations where they're already trying to justify a position.
- vidarh 5y agoI agree that is probably part of it. In terms of "hard free will" that debate is of course entirely orthogonal - a soul would just be another part of the combined system under consideration, but I can very well see people seeing the two as combined. > I don't think that these two topics really have much to do with each other, which I think can be seen by looking at what people really mean when they actually talk about free choice and free will in everyday life rather than in philosophical conversations where they're already trying to justify a position. I certainly agree that people often conflate these two separate subjects. This is also part of why I push so much on definitions, because so much of the time we speak past each other when discussing these subjects.