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So as a phone it works great? I just want a device that calls, and having a bit of fun with Linux is a plus for me. I wonder if they can’t use a raspberry pi l

by prox 5y ago

So as a phone it works great? I just want a device that calls, and having a bit of fun with Linux is a plus for me. I wonder if they can’t use a raspberry pi like base, since in the Pi3-4 loading Firefox is quicker by a margin.

kop316 5y ago
> So as a phone it works great? So far for me it has yeah. I really don't know enough about how well it works outside of the US (but many of the devs seem to be in Europe, so I imagine it works well there?) For me the biggest thing that hurts is battery life, but normally I am in areas where I can just plug it in, so it isn't a big issue. If I am out and about for a day, I just carry around a battery pack (or a spare battery). > I wonder if they can’t use a raspberry pi like base, since in the Pi3-4 loading Firefox is quicker by a margin. You could probably get an EG-25 USB modem and play around with it, but AFAIK no one is doing that, so you'd be largely on your own.
- notswiley2 5y ago
  >You could probably get an EG-25 USB modem and play around with it, but AFAIK no one is doing that, so you'd be largely on your own. I think a lot of the devs actually do this.
  - kop316 5y ago
    AFAIK most devs cross-compile on a beefy machine then debug in the Pinephone (or have some fancy configuration to do it automatically). I personally develop/compile/debug all on phone (but I know I am an outlier in that regard).
opan 5y ago
>I wonder if they can’t use a raspberry pi like base, since in the Pi3-4 loading Firefox is quicker by a margin. This would be a massive downgrade as far as freedom. Raspberry Pis are full of blobs. The original PinePhone uses what is basically the Pine A64 as its base. A very old and slow SBC of Pine64's (and it was right at the PinePhone's release). The PinePhone Pro uses what is basically the RockPro64 as a base, better than most if not all Raspberry Pis. The same (but slightly modified) RK3399 SoC used in their Pinebook Pro laptop.
- prox 5y ago
  That is a shame in a way, I should check the benchmark on the Pro.

by prox 5y ago

kop316 5y ago

> So as a phone it works great? So far for me it has yeah. I really don't know enough about how well it works outside of the US (but many of the devs seem to be in Europe, so I imagine it works well there?) For me the biggest thing that hurts is battery life, but normally I am in areas where I can just plug it in, so it isn't a big issue. If I am out and about for a day, I just carry around a battery pack (or a spare battery). > I wonder if they can’t use a raspberry pi like base, since in the Pi3-4 loading Firefox is quicker by a margin. You could probably get an EG-25 USB modem and play around with it, but AFAIK no one is doing that, so you'd be largely on your own.

notswiley2 5y ago
>You could probably get an EG-25 USB modem and play around with it, but AFAIK no one is doing that, so you'd be largely on your own. I think a lot of the devs actually do this.
- kop316 5y ago
  AFAIK most devs cross-compile on a beefy machine then debug in the Pinephone (or have some fancy configuration to do it automatically). I personally develop/compile/debug all on phone (but I know I am an outlier in that regard).

opan 5y ago

>I wonder if they can’t use a raspberry pi like base, since in the Pi3-4 loading Firefox is quicker by a margin. This would be a massive downgrade as far as freedom. Raspberry Pis are full of blobs. The original PinePhone uses what is basically the Pine A64 as its base. A very old and slow SBC of Pine64's (and it was right at the PinePhone's release). The PinePhone Pro uses what is basically the RockPro64 as a base, better than most if not all Raspberry Pis. The same (but slightly modified) RK3399 SoC used in their Pinebook Pro laptop.

prox 5y ago
That is a shame in a way, I should check the benchmark on the Pro.