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I think authorities are keeping vaccinated non-covid deaths secret. Or maybe not. But we will not learn the answer from theatlantic.com.

smt88 5y ago
Why would "authorities" (please specify who you're referring to) do this? What do they gain from promoting vaccines?
- macilacilove 5y ago
  Government, health organizations such as CDC & WHO and "authoritative" news sources. They may want to promote the vaccines because they are good, and they want the pandemic to be over right?* The question is whether they are doing it honestly or not. I think not. They decided that there is a conclusion that they want people to reach, and they are willing to go as far as obstructing facts to make you reach that. * they may have additional reasons related to conflicts of interest, corruption, etc.
  - smt88 5y ago
    > they are willing to go as far as obstructing facts to make you reach that Vaccine information is collected and verified by thousands of people at hundreds of organizations around the world. It is not conceivable that any actor less than a dictator of a major nation-state could manipulate that information. That essentially leaves Xi and Putin as the only people who could and would do it. In other countries, we have publicly-verifiable clinical trials, data from millions of people, and thousands of independent researchers in academia and hospitals. If you think the CDC, WHO, and Biden admin have gotten behind science or made bad decisions, I completely agree. They have made some incredibly stupid choices. If you think there is a systematic obstruction of facts that has actually succeeded at blinding independent researchers and the public, you are going to have to provide citations.
bitxbitxbitcoin 5y ago
Are you referring to the authorities that have authority over The Atlantic or the authorities that have authority over death reporting?

smt88 5y ago

Why would "authorities" (please specify who you're referring to) do this? What do they gain from promoting vaccines?

macilacilove 5y ago
Government, health organizations such as CDC & WHO and "authoritative" news sources. They may want to promote the vaccines because they are good, and they want the pandemic to be over right?* The question is whether they are doing it honestly or not. I think not. They decided that there is a conclusion that they want people to reach, and they are willing to go as far as obstructing facts to make you reach that. * they may have additional reasons related to conflicts of interest, corruption, etc.
- smt88 5y ago
  > they are willing to go as far as obstructing facts to make you reach that Vaccine information is collected and verified by thousands of people at hundreds of organizations around the world. It is not conceivable that any actor less than a dictator of a major nation-state could manipulate that information. That essentially leaves Xi and Putin as the only people who could and would do it. In other countries, we have publicly-verifiable clinical trials, data from millions of people, and thousands of independent researchers in academia and hospitals. If you think the CDC, WHO, and Biden admin have gotten behind science or made bad decisions, I completely agree. They have made some incredibly stupid choices. If you think there is a systematic obstruction of facts that has actually succeeded at blinding independent researchers and the public, you are going to have to provide citations.

bitxbitxbitcoin 5y ago

Are you referring to the authorities that have authority over The Atlantic or the authorities that have authority over death reporting?