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I voted for Biden in 2020, and I have been very disappointed with his presidency. He started out saying that he wanted to unite the country and turn down the te

I voted for Biden in 2020, and I have been very disappointed with his presidency. He started out saying that he wanted to unite the country and turn down the temperature, and this was exactly what I voted for. In the first 6 months of his presidency I actually thought he was doing a decent job. However, he has really lost me in recent months. His administration spent so long trying to deny that inflation even existed, all while pushing for a gargantuan spending package. WTF? Then all this hyperbolic crap about Jan 6 started getting pushed, with the VP comparing it to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor. Extremely disrespectful, in my opinion. And finally, the nail in the coffin was this Voter ID nonsense. I absolutely support Voter ID, it seems like a common sense policy. And I don't support giving illegal immigrants the right to vote, like they did in NYC. But according to Biden, this makes me a racist who is on the side of Jefferson Davis. Are you freaking serious!? My response to Biden is - go fuck yourself, asshole. In summary, he has disappointed me in many ways. The left hasn't calmed down in the slightest, and cancel culture is at an all time high. Inflation is spiking and people like me may never get to own a house. Biden is too busy calling us racists to have any chance at uniting the country. And covid is at an all time high. Very disappointing, and I hope someone more moderate runs in 2024 for BOTH sides. Trump and Biden are clearly a bunch of old curmudgeons who can't unite shit. Let's get some moderates in there, like Manchin or Romney.

nitwit005 5y ago
> And I don't support giving illegal immigrants the right to vote, like they did in NYC. Except they didn't. They changed the law to let legal immigrants vote.
- uejfiweun 5y ago
  I apologize, clearly I was misinformed. Unfortunately I am unable to edit the comment, thank you for correcting the record.
  - quadrifoliate 5y ago
    An ability to distinguish between illegal and legal immigrants as well as local and national elections is exactly the sort of thing that voters should be well-informed about. Honestly, this lack of ability demonstrated in your comment nullifies most of the ranting you have built up afterwards. I suggest you seriously examine how much of a "pressure head" of resentment you have built up based on these equivalents of software bugs. Running a linter over your other assumptions might also help a bit.
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    - uejfiweun 5y ago
      This seems pretty condescending and disrespectful. I know the difference between illegal and legal immigrants. I don't know the exact details of the NYC law, but I don't have to, because I'm across the continent. I'll give you a suggestion too - if you want to win independent votes, then stop insulting independents.
      - quadrifoliate 5y ago
        > This seems pretty condescending and disrespectful...I don't know the exact details of the NYC law, but I don't have to, because I'm across the continent. I'm suggesting that you be properly informed about things that are influencing your voting. If you're irritated about the NYC law, it seems prudent to get the basic facts right about it before drawing a conclusion. > I'll give you a suggestion too - if you want to win independent votes, then stop insulting independents. I don't want to win anything; and I'm not part of any political campaign. I elect representatives who I generally agree with, and leave things in their hands. If you generally want to vote to take the country in a good direction, I suggest you vote based on a complete understanding that's not influenced by loud-voiced commentators. Alternately, you can choose to be a low-information voter whose vote is easily "won" by some random person posting lies on the Internet, in which case elections turn into more of a shouting match about how much you can smear the other candidate and less about pertinent issues. If you are wrong about one of your assumptions, it's possible you're wrong about others as well. I'm trying not to say what those are; because that just leads to more nitpicking and arguments – things that we already have way too much of on the Internet. In summary: "Do your research before voting" is my nonpartisan and hopefully reasonable suggestion. I'm sorry it's coming across as disrespectful.
tharne 5y ago
^ This comment sums up my feelings on the Biden presidency almost to the letter.
lalaland1125 5y ago
> And I don't support giving illegal immigrants the right to vote, like they did in NYC. Just to clarify, that law only gave tax paying legal immigrants the right to vote in local elections. No taxation without representation used to be an American principle.
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  As a point of order, is a non-citizen the same thing as a legal immigrant? I assume legal-immigrant means one has obtained citizenship.
  - nybble41 5y ago
    > I assume legal-immigrant means one has obtained citizenship. How do you classify a non-citizen Green Card holder? Or someone here on a work visa? Legal immigrants usually don't start out as citizens from the moment they arrive. Obtaining citizenship is a long process. In the meantime they are still residents, and taxpayers, and ought to have a say in decisions which will affect them.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > As a point of order, is a non-citizen the same thing as a legal immigrant? No, noncitizens include nonimmigrants in legal status and aliens in illegal status. > I assume legal-immigrant means one has obtained citizenship. No, it does not. In US law an “immigrant” is an alien present in the US other than one legally admitted under a designated nonimmigrant status. A citizen is just a citizen.
  - dahfizz 5y ago
    You can come to America (and most countries, I imagine) on a work visa, student visa, etc without becoming a citizen. These people are now able to vote in New York. I think the confusion is around the term "immigrant". I agree that immigration implies a permanent move - i.e. you become a citizen of where you are immigrating to. However, I think most people (and media) use "immigrant" as a catch-all for someone who currently lives in country X but was not born there.
  - 5y ago

nitwit005 5y ago

> And I don't support giving illegal immigrants the right to vote, like they did in NYC. Except they didn't. They changed the law to let legal immigrants vote.

uejfiweun 5y ago
I apologize, clearly I was misinformed. Unfortunately I am unable to edit the comment, thank you for correcting the record.
- quadrifoliate 5y ago
  An ability to distinguish between illegal and legal immigrants as well as local and national elections is exactly the sort of thing that voters should be well-informed about. Honestly, this lack of ability demonstrated in your comment nullifies most of the ranting you have built up afterwards. I suggest you seriously examine how much of a "pressure head" of resentment you have built up based on these equivalents of software bugs. Running a linter over your other assumptions might also help a bit.
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  - uejfiweun 5y ago
    This seems pretty condescending and disrespectful. I know the difference between illegal and legal immigrants. I don't know the exact details of the NYC law, but I don't have to, because I'm across the continent. I'll give you a suggestion too - if you want to win independent votes, then stop insulting independents.
    - quadrifoliate 5y ago
      > This seems pretty condescending and disrespectful...I don't know the exact details of the NYC law, but I don't have to, because I'm across the continent. I'm suggesting that you be properly informed about things that are influencing your voting. If you're irritated about the NYC law, it seems prudent to get the basic facts right about it before drawing a conclusion. > I'll give you a suggestion too - if you want to win independent votes, then stop insulting independents. I don't want to win anything; and I'm not part of any political campaign. I elect representatives who I generally agree with, and leave things in their hands. If you generally want to vote to take the country in a good direction, I suggest you vote based on a complete understanding that's not influenced by loud-voiced commentators. Alternately, you can choose to be a low-information voter whose vote is easily "won" by some random person posting lies on the Internet, in which case elections turn into more of a shouting match about how much you can smear the other candidate and less about pertinent issues. If you are wrong about one of your assumptions, it's possible you're wrong about others as well. I'm trying not to say what those are; because that just leads to more nitpicking and arguments – things that we already have way too much of on the Internet. In summary: "Do your research before voting" is my nonpartisan and hopefully reasonable suggestion. I'm sorry it's coming across as disrespectful.

tharne 5y ago

^ This comment sums up my feelings on the Biden presidency almost to the letter.

lalaland1125 5y ago

> And I don't support giving illegal immigrants the right to vote, like they did in NYC. Just to clarify, that law only gave tax paying legal immigrants the right to vote in local elections. No taxation without representation used to be an American principle.

BitwiseFool 5y ago
As a point of order, is a non-citizen the same thing as a legal immigrant? I assume legal-immigrant means one has obtained citizenship.
- nybble41 5y ago
  > I assume legal-immigrant means one has obtained citizenship. How do you classify a non-citizen Green Card holder? Or someone here on a work visa? Legal immigrants usually don't start out as citizens from the moment they arrive. Obtaining citizenship is a long process. In the meantime they are still residents, and taxpayers, and ought to have a say in decisions which will affect them.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > As a point of order, is a non-citizen the same thing as a legal immigrant? No, noncitizens include nonimmigrants in legal status and aliens in illegal status. > I assume legal-immigrant means one has obtained citizenship. No, it does not. In US law an “immigrant” is an alien present in the US other than one legally admitted under a designated nonimmigrant status. A citizen is just a citizen.
- dahfizz 5y ago
  You can come to America (and most countries, I imagine) on a work visa, student visa, etc without becoming a citizen. These people are now able to vote in New York. I think the confusion is around the term "immigrant". I agree that immigration implies a permanent move - i.e. you become a citizen of where you are immigrating to. However, I think most people (and media) use "immigrant" as a catch-all for someone who currently lives in country X but was not born there.
- 5y ago