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FSD is different. It's obviously having a would-be accident every few miles from watching Youtube videos (by the biggest fans). And those statistics are ridicu

by sidibe 5y ago

FSD is different. It's obviously having a would-be accident every few miles from watching Youtube videos (by the biggest fans). And those statistics are ridiculous advertising material comparing the extremely easy fair-weather driving on highways where drivers felt safe enough to use autopilot vs all miles.

maxharris 5y ago
Electricity is different. It's obviously having a would-be electrocution every few homes from reading too many novels (by the biggest fans). https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/8qcy9y/antielectricity_cartoon_from_1900/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/8qcy9y/antielectricit...
- sidibe 5y ago
  I can think FSD is inevitable while also thinking Tesla's current version is garbage and shouldn't allowed for the public, much less sold for $12k. This is like defending an early electric company that is deploying lines all over the place and risks shocking people while not working at all.
  - maxharris 5y ago
    New things are inherently riskier than old things. How do you expect to see progress without experimentation and short feedback cycles?
    - sidibe 5y ago
      There are ways to make new things safely without selling a technology that absolutely doesn't work to the public. What Waymo and Cruise are doing for example in this case
      - maxharris 5y ago
        There are ways to make new things safely without selling a technology that absolutely doesn't work to the public. Waymo and Cruise are bad examples because they are both far, far behind Tesla...
robbedpeter 5y ago
Are you claiming that your personal analysis of a biased selection of YouTube videos is more accurate than the statistics provided to and validated by regulators under weight of law? The author of the article is also a known bad faith operator. Isn't it more reasonable to base your understanding of driving automation (by Tesla and other companies) on actual numbers and not a laughably biased hit piece by a nonsense person?
- sidibe 5y ago
  Yes in this case my perusing youtube videos is more accurate than the statistics Tesla is touting. Almost every trip I see has them making bad mistakes.

by sidibe 5y ago

maxharris 5y ago

Electricity is different. It's obviously having a would-be electrocution every few homes from reading too many novels (by the biggest fans). https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/8qcy9y/antielectricity_cartoon_from_1900/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/8qcy9y/antielectricit...

sidibe 5y ago
I can think FSD is inevitable while also thinking Tesla's current version is garbage and shouldn't allowed for the public, much less sold for $12k. This is like defending an early electric company that is deploying lines all over the place and risks shocking people while not working at all.
- maxharris 5y ago
  New things are inherently riskier than old things. How do you expect to see progress without experimentation and short feedback cycles?
  - sidibe 5y ago
    There are ways to make new things safely without selling a technology that absolutely doesn't work to the public. What Waymo and Cruise are doing for example in this case
    - maxharris 5y ago
      There are ways to make new things safely without selling a technology that absolutely doesn't work to the public. Waymo and Cruise are bad examples because they are both far, far behind Tesla...

robbedpeter 5y ago

Are you claiming that your personal analysis of a biased selection of YouTube videos is more accurate than the statistics provided to and validated by regulators under weight of law? The author of the article is also a known bad faith operator. Isn't it more reasonable to base your understanding of driving automation (by Tesla and other companies) on actual numbers and not a laughably biased hit piece by a nonsense person?

sidibe 5y ago
Yes in this case my perusing youtube videos is more accurate than the statistics Tesla is touting. Almost every trip I see has them making bad mistakes.