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At this rate it's going to be Tencent vs Microsoft and if I have to choose I pick Microsoft.

Ekaros 5y ago
On gaming side the Microsoft from big players actually producing games seem the least bad option. Lot less bullshit in general than likes of Ubisoft and EA or Activision.
anaganisk 5y ago
viktorcode 5y ago
There's a difference though. Tencent doesn't dictate its studios how to conduct business. Microsoft on the other hand made Bethesda leave PlayStation, which negatively impacts their revenue, but plays into the hand of Microsoft.
- Lio 5y ago
  > Tencent doesn't dictate its studios how to conduct business. Isn't that exactly what Tencent are well known for doing?[1] > According to the designer, Riot managers had provided a PowerPoint presentation that she assumed Tencent had made for them, although she didn’t know for sure. 1. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/15/china-video-game-censorship-tencent-netease-blizzard https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/15/china-video-gam...
  - schmorptron 5y ago
    This quote doesn't fit the context here. In the article, it states this was about entering the chinese market, not about how to design their game.
  - RyEgswuCsn 5y ago
    Quite the contrary: > The deal still leaves Riot with a largely independent remit, however, with CEO Brandon Beck telling press that Tencent see Riot more as investment partners than as a fully-owned subsidiary. > "Riot is going to remain completely independent. There are no redundancies, no layoffs, no synergy fishing, no leadership change," Beck told Gamasutra. "Nothing is going to change other than they're dramatically increasing their holding in the company. They see this more as an investment in a partner. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-02-07-tencent-acquires-riot-games-for-around-USD400-million https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-02-07-tencent-ac... I remember reading somewhere that Tencent has the reputation of not interfering with the game studios it had acquired.
    - baud147258 5y ago
      Though that article is more than 10 years old, so I'd take anything written in it with a grain of salt
rodgerd 5y ago
Tencent and Sony are still much larger than Microsoft's gaming division, even after this.
- baud147258 5y ago
  And if you compare Tencent and Sony's gaming division to Microsoft's gaming division?
  - rodgerd 5y ago
    Still much larger.
einpoklum 5y ago
So, you're saying that between the giant douche and the turd sandwich you pick the sandwich? Somehow I'm not impressed.
- baud147258 5y ago
  Sometime people prefer the turd they know compared to the unknow one

On gaming side the Microsoft from big players actually producing games seem the least bad option. Lot less bullshit in general than likes of Ubisoft and EA or Activision.

anaganisk 5y ago

viktorcode 5y ago

There's a difference though. Tencent doesn't dictate its studios how to conduct business. Microsoft on the other hand made Bethesda leave PlayStation, which negatively impacts their revenue, but plays into the hand of Microsoft.

Lio 5y ago
> Tencent doesn't dictate its studios how to conduct business. Isn't that exactly what Tencent are well known for doing?[1] > According to the designer, Riot managers had provided a PowerPoint presentation that she assumed Tencent had made for them, although she didn’t know for sure. 1. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/15/china-video-game-censorship-tencent-netease-blizzard https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/15/china-video-gam...
- schmorptron 5y ago
  This quote doesn't fit the context here. In the article, it states this was about entering the chinese market, not about how to design their game.
- RyEgswuCsn 5y ago
  Quite the contrary: > The deal still leaves Riot with a largely independent remit, however, with CEO Brandon Beck telling press that Tencent see Riot more as investment partners than as a fully-owned subsidiary. > "Riot is going to remain completely independent. There are no redundancies, no layoffs, no synergy fishing, no leadership change," Beck told Gamasutra. "Nothing is going to change other than they're dramatically increasing their holding in the company. They see this more as an investment in a partner. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-02-07-tencent-acquires-riot-games-for-around-USD400-million https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-02-07-tencent-ac... I remember reading somewhere that Tencent has the reputation of not interfering with the game studios it had acquired.
  - baud147258 5y ago
    Though that article is more than 10 years old, so I'd take anything written in it with a grain of salt

rodgerd 5y ago

Tencent and Sony are still much larger than Microsoft's gaming division, even after this.

baud147258 5y ago
And if you compare Tencent and Sony's gaming division to Microsoft's gaming division?
- rodgerd 5y ago
  Still much larger.

einpoklum 5y ago

So, you're saying that between the giant douche and the turd sandwich you pick the sandwich? Somehow I'm not impressed.

baud147258 5y ago
Sometime people prefer the turd they know compared to the unknow one