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To frustrate those who legally purchased the game? It doesn't stop piracy, it makes the pirate version higher quality.

by ipaddr 5y ago

MattPalmer1086 5y ago
Probably to restrict secondary markets, not to stop piracy.
trinovantes 5y ago
Need to boost that MAU number
ddtaylor 5y ago
It really depends on how you define piracy. With movies and music it doesn't work at all because they don't evolve and change over time. Once that 4K BluRay content hits The Pirate Bay it's game over. But, with games, it's a very different story. Many games have intricate design with their servers that make ripping them apart and creating standalone pirated copies extremely difficult. Even some single player games, while pirated, don't get as much adoption from the pirate community because of the ongoing patch support they receive that is usually lacking in the pirated versions.
School-Cotton 5y ago
It doesn’t stop piracy, but it decreases it by making it much more difficult and higher-friction. Claiming DRM does nothing is a bit like anti-vaxers claiming the Covid vaccine “doesn’t work” because the virus can still spread…
- slothtrop 5y ago
  It doesn't do that either. Once a copy is out there, it's out there - there's no "scarcity" just because creating a pirated copy takes work. Only few individuals need go through the trouble.
mardifoufs 5y ago
Denuvo seems to stop piracy just fine. Even when it doesn't permanently protect a game, it usually does so for at least half a year before getting cracked. That is more than good enough, considering most of game sales happen early after launch. Some denuvo protected titles haven't been cracked for years now. If anything I think denuvo is just paving the way for a pretty gloomy future of "almost perfect" DRM. It might still be crackable, but the effort needed would be immense (or just downright impossible if you take into account the incredible resource discrepancy between the two sides). Even the mood in parts of the scene seems to have shifted towards resignation w.r.t to denuvo.
- baud147258 5y ago
  > it usually does so for at least half a year before getting cracked. but do games where the denuvo isn't cracked early do get increased sales? I mean that's the (purported) claim that the various DRM schemes were to fight piracy, with the justification that piracy resulted in lost sales
Koiwai 5y ago
"It's invented for a reason", didn't say it fulfilled it's duty.

To frustrate those who legally purchased the game? It doesn't stop piracy, it makes the pirate version higher quality.

by ipaddr 5y ago

To frustrate those who legally purchased the game? It doesn't stop piracy, it makes the pirate version higher quality.

MattPalmer1086 5y ago

Probably to restrict secondary markets, not to stop piracy.

trinovantes 5y ago

Need to boost that MAU number

ddtaylor 5y ago

It really depends on how you define piracy. With movies and music it doesn't work at all because they don't evolve and change over time. Once that 4K BluRay content hits The Pirate Bay it's game over. But, with games, it's a very different story. Many games have intricate design with their servers that make ripping them apart and creating standalone pirated copies extremely difficult. Even some single player games, while pirated, don't get as much adoption from the pirate community because of the ongoing patch support they receive that is usually lacking in the pirated versions.

School-Cotton 5y ago

It doesn’t stop piracy, but it decreases it by making it much more difficult and higher-friction. Claiming DRM does nothing is a bit like anti-vaxers claiming the Covid vaccine “doesn’t work” because the virus can still spread…

slothtrop 5y ago
It doesn't do that either. Once a copy is out there, it's out there - there's no "scarcity" just because creating a pirated copy takes work. Only few individuals need go through the trouble.

mardifoufs 5y ago

Denuvo seems to stop piracy just fine. Even when it doesn't permanently protect a game, it usually does so for at least half a year before getting cracked. That is more than good enough, considering most of game sales happen early after launch. Some denuvo protected titles haven't been cracked for years now. If anything I think denuvo is just paving the way for a pretty gloomy future of "almost perfect" DRM. It might still be crackable, but the effort needed would be immense (or just downright impossible if you take into account the incredible resource discrepancy between the two sides). Even the mood in parts of the scene seems to have shifted towards resignation w.r.t to denuvo.

baud147258 5y ago
> it usually does so for at least half a year before getting cracked. but do games where the denuvo isn't cracked early do get increased sales? I mean that's the (purported) claim that the various DRM schemes were to fight piracy, with the justification that piracy resulted in lost sales

Koiwai 5y ago

"It's invented for a reason", didn't say it fulfilled it's duty.