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> Blizzard is long dead. i'm still in somewhat of a denial since i really like their IPs. and diablo 4 is still very much on my radar. if that one tanks then I

by kmlx 5y ago

> Blizzard is long dead. i'm still in somewhat of a denial since i really like their IPs. and diablo 4 is still very much on my radar. if that one tanks then I hope something changes as their IPs are just too good...

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
AAA development slog like what is apparently happening with D4 rarely bodes well for fun. Dev work apparently began in 2014 and it's not likely to be released until 2023 at the earliest.
wayoutthere 5y ago
Most of their IP is dead at this point; Warcraft is a dead horse they’ve been beating for the last decade, StarCraft is effectively abandoned, and Diablo 3 was a blatant cash grab from day 1 with a mediocre game behind it. Hearthstone and Overwatch are doing ok as esports but those aren’t the Blizzard IP I actually like. To think that any future games will be better than what we’ve gotten over the last decade is just being in denial that they’re Activision now. They have continued to mine the nostalgia of the player base with mediocre remakes and retread content and, combined with the fact that it’s now public knowledge how toxic Blizzard culture was during the “golden era”, it has destroyed most of the cultural value that IP had.
- pfraze 5y ago
  Overwatch league is kind of hosed right now because of the weird shenanigans around OW2. Last I heard, they were planning on dropping team sizes by 1 (so a bunch of pros are getting fired) and they also planned to have next years league play the unreleased OW2 beta (??). It’s in a weird place.
  - pests 5y ago
    You are correct. OW2 is going to 5v5 (removing a tank role) and yes league will be on the OW2 client but it will still be 6v6 as OW2 won't be out yet. The change to 5v5 is requiring major character reworks and don't affect that league.
    - pfraze 5y ago
      I’d love nothing more than to see a glorious turnaround that sees OW2 become very popular, so I’m rooting for you, Microsoft/Blizzard/Activision. I’m not optimistic, but I’m hopeful.
da_chicken 5y ago
They botched the Warcraft III remaster hard, and I can't forgive them for that. It doesn't matter that they farmed it out. They chose to farm it out, and they chose to ship it in the state we got. Take all that along side all this sexual harassment and anti-worker BS they've been pulling for decades, and I just don't care enough anymore. I don't need anything Blizzard wants to sell any more. I don't need to buy something to tarnish my memories of fun games. I don't need to replay those games if they're made under atrocious conditions. I'm no longer willing to give my money to a company that is emblematic of everything wrong with video games. Now with other companies pulling that same BS, and now some are coming out in favor of NFTs? Fuck 'em. I don't need AAA games. Indie titles are just as good, and I've got a hundred other things vying for my free time.

by kmlx 5y ago

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago

AAA development slog like what is apparently happening with D4 rarely bodes well for fun. Dev work apparently began in 2014 and it's not likely to be released until 2023 at the earliest.

wayoutthere 5y ago

Most of their IP is dead at this point; Warcraft is a dead horse they’ve been beating for the last decade, StarCraft is effectively abandoned, and Diablo 3 was a blatant cash grab from day 1 with a mediocre game behind it. Hearthstone and Overwatch are doing ok as esports but those aren’t the Blizzard IP I actually like. To think that any future games will be better than what we’ve gotten over the last decade is just being in denial that they’re Activision now. They have continued to mine the nostalgia of the player base with mediocre remakes and retread content and, combined with the fact that it’s now public knowledge how toxic Blizzard culture was during the “golden era”, it has destroyed most of the cultural value that IP had.

pfraze 5y ago
Overwatch league is kind of hosed right now because of the weird shenanigans around OW2. Last I heard, they were planning on dropping team sizes by 1 (so a bunch of pros are getting fired) and they also planned to have next years league play the unreleased OW2 beta (??). It’s in a weird place.
- pests 5y ago
  You are correct. OW2 is going to 5v5 (removing a tank role) and yes league will be on the OW2 client but it will still be 6v6 as OW2 won't be out yet. The change to 5v5 is requiring major character reworks and don't affect that league.
  - pfraze 5y ago
    I’d love nothing more than to see a glorious turnaround that sees OW2 become very popular, so I’m rooting for you, Microsoft/Blizzard/Activision. I’m not optimistic, but I’m hopeful.

da_chicken 5y ago

They botched the Warcraft III remaster hard, and I can't forgive them for that. It doesn't matter that they farmed it out. They chose to farm it out, and they chose to ship it in the state we got. Take all that along side all this sexual harassment and anti-worker BS they've been pulling for decades, and I just don't care enough anymore. I don't need anything Blizzard wants to sell any more. I don't need to buy something to tarnish my memories of fun games. I don't need to replay those games if they're made under atrocious conditions. I'm no longer willing to give my money to a company that is emblematic of everything wrong with video games. Now with other companies pulling that same BS, and now some are coming out in favor of NFTs? Fuck 'em. I don't need AAA games. Indie titles are just as good, and I've got a hundred other things vying for my free time.