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That was one joke that was blown out of proportion by the media. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/boston-celtics/kyrie-irving-boston-celtics-says-he-does-not-b

That was one joke that was blown out of proportion by the media. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/boston-celtics/kyrie-irving-boston-celtics-says-he-does-not-believe-earth-is-flat-was-just-trolling https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/boston-celtics/kyrie-irving...

e40 5y ago
He was clearly trolling the media. Honestly, some of the sports media are so bad that I don't really blame sports figures from trolling them. It was done in usual Kyrie style, though.
- Thorrez 5y ago
  See my reply. I don't think it was clear he was only joking.
  - e40 5y ago
    Listened to [1]. Never heard that one, but, to me, that seals the deal that he's trolling. The fact that he wouldn't answer the question "are you trolling?" is the important part, IMO.
    - Thorrez 5y ago
      I don't see how it seals the deal. If you say something you believe in order to stir up trouble, is that trolling? What about something you half believe, or that you're unsure about, but claim you're sure about? It seems to me he's unsure whether the earth is round, and unsure about the definition of trolling, and thus doesn't know how to answer. He basically goes along with the interviewer because the interviewer is friendly and charismatic. He sort of wants to answer no, but doesn't want to make his friendly interviewer upset. The interviewer is trying to lead him to say yes, and he navigates it by avoiding the question. What seals the deal for me is even in his last interview, where he seems genuinely sorry for what he said, he still doesn't say anything along the lines of "it's obviously round, I was just joking", because he doesn't want to say something that goes against his beliefs. Instead he says that if you have those beliefs you shouldn't say them publicly.
      - e40 5y ago
        I hear you. Look, this is a guessing game. We're trying to figure out what's in the mind of Kyrie. I will say I think the statement "that goes against his beliefs" is a weird thing to say (not you, him) when we're talking about whether the earth is round. It's not a religion it's science. Science that was settled more than a thousand years ago. I think Kyrie puts this in terms of "beliefs" so he can push back on people that challenge him. "What, you're attacking my beliefs now??" We have spent waaaaay too long talk about that fool. Peace.
Thorrez 5y ago
Did he say it was a joke? He said he said it to get a reaction.[1] People say true things all the time to get a reaction. Let's look at the timeline[2]: 2017-02-16: He says he believes the Earth is flat.[3] 2017-02-17: He doubles down on it.[3] 2017-09-25: He says he said it to get a reaction. He never uses the word joking. He says he just wants to have an open conversation. "At the end of the day, you're gunna feel and believe what you want to feel, but don't knock my life over it."[1] 2018-06-08: He says he doesn't know whether the earth is round or flat. "I haven’t convinced myself all the way like everything that has been given to us is fake. No. But you also know that a lot of history has been distorted over time."[4] 2018-10-01: He apologizes for saying the earth is flat. He doesn't say he doesn't believe it, just that he's sorry for saying it. He was into conspiracies and went down the rabbit hole and wanted to share it with everyone. But how he thinks "Don't come out and say that stuff, that's for intimate conversations."[5] He also promoted conspiracies about famous assassinations.[3] [1] https://streamable.com/d9nx2 https://streamable.com/d9nx2 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie_Irving#Conspiracy_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie_Irving#Conspiracy_theori... [3] https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2693635-kyrie-irving-actually-believes-earth-is-flat https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2693635-kyrie-irving-act... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/movies/kyrie-irving-nba-celtics-earth.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/movies/kyrie-irving-nba-c... [5] https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24863899/kyrie-irving-boston-celtics-apologizes-saying-earth-flat https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24863899/kyrie-irving-bo...

e40 5y ago

He was clearly trolling the media. Honestly, some of the sports media are so bad that I don't really blame sports figures from trolling them. It was done in usual Kyrie style, though.

Thorrez 5y ago
See my reply. I don't think it was clear he was only joking.
- e40 5y ago
  Listened to [1]. Never heard that one, but, to me, that seals the deal that he's trolling. The fact that he wouldn't answer the question "are you trolling?" is the important part, IMO.
  - Thorrez 5y ago
    I don't see how it seals the deal. If you say something you believe in order to stir up trouble, is that trolling? What about something you half believe, or that you're unsure about, but claim you're sure about? It seems to me he's unsure whether the earth is round, and unsure about the definition of trolling, and thus doesn't know how to answer. He basically goes along with the interviewer because the interviewer is friendly and charismatic. He sort of wants to answer no, but doesn't want to make his friendly interviewer upset. The interviewer is trying to lead him to say yes, and he navigates it by avoiding the question. What seals the deal for me is even in his last interview, where he seems genuinely sorry for what he said, he still doesn't say anything along the lines of "it's obviously round, I was just joking", because he doesn't want to say something that goes against his beliefs. Instead he says that if you have those beliefs you shouldn't say them publicly.
    - e40 5y ago
      I hear you. Look, this is a guessing game. We're trying to figure out what's in the mind of Kyrie. I will say I think the statement "that goes against his beliefs" is a weird thing to say (not you, him) when we're talking about whether the earth is round. It's not a religion it's science. Science that was settled more than a thousand years ago. I think Kyrie puts this in terms of "beliefs" so he can push back on people that challenge him. "What, you're attacking my beliefs now??" We have spent waaaaay too long talk about that fool. Peace.

Thorrez 5y ago

Did he say it was a joke? He said he said it to get a reaction.[1] People say true things all the time to get a reaction. Let's look at the timeline[2]: 2017-02-16: He says he believes the Earth is flat.[3] 2017-02-17: He doubles down on it.[3] 2017-09-25: He says he said it to get a reaction. He never uses the word joking. He says he just wants to have an open conversation. "At the end of the day, you're gunna feel and believe what you want to feel, but don't knock my life over it."[1] 2018-06-08: He says he doesn't know whether the earth is round or flat. "I haven’t convinced myself all the way like everything that has been given to us is fake. No. But you also know that a lot of history has been distorted over time."[4] 2018-10-01: He apologizes for saying the earth is flat. He doesn't say he doesn't believe it, just that he's sorry for saying it. He was into conspiracies and went down the rabbit hole and wanted to share it with everyone. But how he thinks "Don't come out and say that stuff, that's for intimate conversations."[5] He also promoted conspiracies about famous assassinations.[3] [1] https://streamable.com/d9nx2 https://streamable.com/d9nx2 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie_Irving#Conspiracy_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie_Irving#Conspiracy_theori... [3] https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2693635-kyrie-irving-actually-believes-earth-is-flat https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2693635-kyrie-irving-act... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/movies/kyrie-irving-nba-celtics-earth.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/movies/kyrie-irving-nba-c... [5] https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24863899/kyrie-irving-boston-celtics-apologizes-saying-earth-flat https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24863899/kyrie-irving-bo...