Just to echo this is similar to my experience. Java development culture that I have known in the work place is extremely coddled by their frameworks. It is har

Just to echo this is similar to my experience. Java development culture that I have known in the work place is extremely coddled by their frameworks. It is hard for them to open the terminal and execute their application JAR from the command line--only ever from the IDE. Oh wait--they need Tomcat/Apache & a few hours of dealing with classpath issues.