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Docker isn't a cache-all for containers. Docker has a pretty terrible deployment story at this point and I forsee in a couple years it will probably be consider

Docker isn't a cache-all for containers. Docker has a pretty terrible deployment story at this point and I forsee in a couple years it will probably be considered legacy compared to Podman/K3d/Local K8s/etc

jrockway 5y ago
I think people use the word Docker to mean "produce an OCI-compliant image that a CRI runtime can run".
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  Podman does the same thing, as well as other tools. Using Docker to refer to something that doesn't use Docker is like saying that your Android Phone is an iPhone.
fivea 5y ago
> Docker has a pretty terrible deployment story (...) This is the very first time I ever heard such nonsense. In all companies I've been, Docker is a renowned problem solver, not only for production deplyments but also for local testing environments and deployments. It even shines as a stand-alone barebones clustering solution with Docker swarm mode.
- ramoz 5y ago
  I’ve honestly not touched docker in years, but all of my prod apps run in docker. So it’d be paradoxical for me to see I don’t need docker, but I really want to.
  - hvidgaard 5y ago
    Docker can be considered a deployment tool. You package your application in an image and run said image. Development and test of that application does not have to be in a docker image.
    - encryptluks2 5y ago
      Nor does deployment. Podman, Rancher, etc all solve those challenges without relying on Docker and with Docker changing their licensing I don't think it will be the de-facto tool in a couple years. There will be others that will replace it.
      - hvidgaard 5y ago
        Docker has become synonymous with OCI images, and my comment was exactly in that context (or at least state of mind) - I should have stated that as well.
  - fivea 5y ago
    > So it’d be paradoxical for me to see I don’t need docker, but I really want to. I find it quite amusing that projects that try to position themselves as Docker alternatives end up basing their presentation on how their project can be used just like Docker, down to Docker's choice of command line interface.

jrockway 5y ago

I think people use the word Docker to mean "produce an OCI-compliant image that a CRI runtime can run".

encryptluks2 5y ago
Podman does the same thing, as well as other tools. Using Docker to refer to something that doesn't use Docker is like saying that your Android Phone is an iPhone.

fivea 5y ago

> Docker has a pretty terrible deployment story (...) This is the very first time I ever heard such nonsense. In all companies I've been, Docker is a renowned problem solver, not only for production deplyments but also for local testing environments and deployments. It even shines as a stand-alone barebones clustering solution with Docker swarm mode.

ramoz 5y ago
I’ve honestly not touched docker in years, but all of my prod apps run in docker. So it’d be paradoxical for me to see I don’t need docker, but I really want to.
- hvidgaard 5y ago
  Docker can be considered a deployment tool. You package your application in an image and run said image. Development and test of that application does not have to be in a docker image.
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    Nor does deployment. Podman, Rancher, etc all solve those challenges without relying on Docker and with Docker changing their licensing I don't think it will be the de-facto tool in a couple years. There will be others that will replace it.
    - hvidgaard 5y ago
      Docker has become synonymous with OCI images, and my comment was exactly in that context (or at least state of mind) - I should have stated that as well.
- fivea 5y ago
  > So it’d be paradoxical for me to see I don’t need docker, but I really want to. I find it quite amusing that projects that try to position themselves as Docker alternatives end up basing their presentation on how their project can be used just like Docker, down to Docker's choice of command line interface.