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"I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact," Fauci said. "But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you wan

"I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact," Fauci said. "But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you want to have that blanket of herd immunity." https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/12/15/946714505/fauci-predicts-u-s-could-see-signs-of-herd-immunity-by-late-march-or-early-april https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... the fraction of people who would need immunity to SARS-CoV-2 (either through vaccination or recovery from prior infection) to extinguish the spread of the virus was initially estimated to be 60% to 70%. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/90445 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/90445 Estimates based on measles and other diseases suggest that herd immunity occurs when 70%-80% of the population is vaccinated. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/dr-fauci-what-herd-immunity-against-covid-would-look-like.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/dr-fauci-what-herd-immunity-... I'm not sure if you have a very poor memory or you're just lying, but everyone was pushing the idea that the covid vaccines were sterilizing and would push us to reach herd immunity and eradicate Covid-19.

epgui 5y ago
That might all be true, but it’s all cherry picked out of context. Had we had broad vaccine immunity in the early days of the pandemic, the situation may have turned out differently. Over time, things change.
- rhino369 5y ago
  Officials, Pfizer, and Moderna were loudly celebrating the "94%" or "95%" effectiveness, which was measured in symptomatic cases. Now its 0-20% w/o a booster. The vaccine is clearly less effective than before, which is understandable given the new variant. But it's definitely disappointing--a lot more people will die because the herd immunity clock got reset.
  - epgui 5y ago
    This take I can get behind, because it's a contextual description of what really happened. (It's funny getting downvoted on this topic, because not only have I been following the pandemic with great interest just as anyone else, but this is actually very close to my area of expertise.)

epgui 5y ago

That might all be true, but it’s all cherry picked out of context. Had we had broad vaccine immunity in the early days of the pandemic, the situation may have turned out differently. Over time, things change.

rhino369 5y ago
Officials, Pfizer, and Moderna were loudly celebrating the "94%" or "95%" effectiveness, which was measured in symptomatic cases. Now its 0-20% w/o a booster. The vaccine is clearly less effective than before, which is understandable given the new variant. But it's definitely disappointing--a lot more people will die because the herd immunity clock got reset.
- epgui 5y ago
  This take I can get behind, because it's a contextual description of what really happened. (It's funny getting downvoted on this topic, because not only have I been following the pandemic with great interest just as anyone else, but this is actually very close to my area of expertise.)