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I think it’s hard to get good data anymore since so many people are vaccinated. I’ve heard one news outlet report that some scientists were trying to analyse th

I think it’s hard to get good data anymore since so many people are vaccinated. I’ve heard one news outlet report that some scientists were trying to analyse the unvaccinated data only and initial findings were showing Omicron may be just as bad as Alpha. But small sample size etc etc so we really don’t know.

ceejayoz 5y ago
There are tens of millions of unvaccinated in the US alone. Plenty of data to be had.
- kcplate 5y ago
  But the meaningful data which is increased illness severity and higher chances of death are concentrated in 65+ age brackets which are 95%/88%/62% (1/2/3 shot vaccinated) in the US. As you fall in ages it’s less % vaccinated, but also the chance of a severe case among the unvaccinated drops too…dramatically. So yes, tens of millions unvaccinated, but also tens of millions that can’t really be measured as effectively either.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    If we can have statistically valid results from 40k clinical trial participants, 5% of the 65+ population being unvaccinated is plenty of data to base conclusions on.
    - heavyset_go 5y ago
      One issue I'd could imagine is that it might be difficult to slice a representative sample out of those 5% of people, whereas a clinical trial is set up from the get-go to enroll individuals that would make up a representative sample of the intended recipients of the drug/procedure/device that's being studied.
      - kcplate 5y ago
        I think there would be difficulty just to get enough willing participants out of the 5%. I suspect that group at this point has to be the most extreme skeptical holdouts or religious objectors and would likely be adverse to any clinical trials.