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Not all creationists adamantly believe the earth is literally only 7k years old. That's a very specific subset called "young earth creationists". I would ventu
by umvi 5y ago
Not all creationists adamantly believe the earth is literally only 7k years old. That's a very specific subset called "young earth creationists".
I would venture most creationists at the most fundamental level believe the earth, life, evolution, etc. are not accidental occurrences but the calculated result of creative effort. And that basic belief is not incompatible at all with scientific discovery
- cannabis_sam 5y ago> but the calculated result of creative effort. Wouldn’t this mean it’s calculated by something that can conveniently ignore both computational complexity and logical completeness? To me this seems as unreasonable as young earth creationism.. Or are you thinking of something else..?
- umvi 5y ago> Wouldn’t this mean it’s calculated by something that can conveniently ignore both computational complexity and logical completeness Assuming God has either access to more advanced technology than us or more advanced knowledge, why would that be unreasonable? Something that seems computationally complex now (like factoring primes) might be more manageable with more advanced knowledge/technology. Terraforming, bioengineering, factoring primes, etc. are within the realms of possibility for our civilization, so why not for a more advanced being?
- MPSimmons 5y agoMy response to young earth creationists is, "God worked really hard to make it look like the Earth is billions of years old. Shouldn't we respect His wishes and just go with it?"
- CamperBob2 5y agoThere's a T-shirt for that: https://amorphia-apparel.com/teach/devil-a-burying-dinosaur-bones-fossils-creationist-shirt#!/ https://amorphia-apparel.com/teach/devil-a-burying-dinosaur-... Religion teaches you how to rationalize literally anything, for better or worse. I suspect it wouldn't have evolved as part of human culture if there wasn't a need for it.
- im_down_w_otp 5y agoIndeed! I expect that it's very useful as a function to avoid the deleterious effects of inescapably embracing the pessimistic version of existentialism. "Religion: An Evolutionary Pressure To Bother With Any Of It At All" :-)
- awb 5y agoThe trump card is faith. Anything that appears to contradict a belief can instead be seen as a test of faith. Some go so far as attribute that challenge of faith to a bad actor like the Devil.