> Lol, there is zero chance that China can take Hawaii. While it's part of the US? Yes. If it were independent? Things get a lot iffier. Enough "investment" mo

> Lol, there is zero chance that China can take Hawaii. While it's part of the US? Yes. If it were independent? Things get a lot iffier. Enough "investment" money can corrupt small governments a lot more readily than a small government in a big one, and a full takeover may be unnecessary for quite some time. This is, of course, orthogonal to the problem of whether it ought have such independence in an abstract, principled sense of things. The good news would be that they would no longer be subject to the Jones Act and could freely trade with the US mainland using normal boats like everyone else does.