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I can't help but think that people must have some wildly inaccurate conceptions of what CRT is, based on how they talk about it. I didn't really know, so I look

I can't help but think that people must have some wildly inaccurate conceptions of what CRT is, based on how they talk about it. I didn't really know, so I looked at the Wikipedia page for it and here's the short version: "an intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour" Which doesn't sound like an inherently racist ideology to me. I highly suspect quotes like the above are being taken out of context. Unfortunately this statement appears to be pulled from somewhere inside a book on the subject, which I have not yet invested the time to track down let alone read. My assumption would be that, as is true in many such cases, a lot of the terminology is being misrepresented by leaving the reader to assume a colloquial definition of the words rather than the context laid out in the supporting text. Indeed, several articles hint that this is indeed the case: "Kendi defines racism as “a marriage of racist policies and racist ideas that produces and normalizes racial inequities.” Racist inequality exists when “two or more racial groups are not standing on approximately equal footing.” Racist policies are any law, rule or regulation that keeps that inequality in place. The discrimination Kendi is talking about is not the police, politicians or teachers who believe one thing or the other, but policies that are in the system that effectively keep the power to maintain or change that policy primarily in the group that benefits from that discrimination."[0] [0] https://fredericksburg.com/opinion/letters/letter-crt-necessary-to-create-truly-equitable-america/article_988b6b7d-4093-5f6e-b6f5-5964356bbe8a.html https://fredericksburg.com/opinion/letters/letter-crt-necess...

yucky 5y ago
One must ask themselves if they think the government should treat people differently based on the color of their skin. If you think the answer to this is yes (because CRT requires it), then I'm curious to hear why we now believe this form of racial discrimination to be a net positive in society.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Exactly which part requires it? Indeed, the very definition asserts that 'race' is a social construct designed for the purpose of opressing some for the benefit of others. I think one must instead ask themselves "where the hell did I get this notion of what critical race theory means?".
  - yucky 5y ago
    >I think one must instead ask themselves "where the hell did I get this notion of what critical race theory means?". I provided the exact quote from Ibram X. Kendi, if you don't accept the description from the foremost expert on CRT on how it requires racial discrimination, I'm not sure it's a truth you would ever be willing to accept. In the interests of not turning this place into Reddit, it's probably best to take Mr. Kendi at his word, and leave the rest up to the reader :)
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
      > I provided the exact quote from Ibram X. Kendi Yes, and I provided reasoning as to why I think that quote is taken out of context. I have provided the text of the definition of Critical Race Theory from Wikipedia, which almost word for word has lifted it from Encyclopedia Britannica. I'm going to have to take that over one sentence that was most likely taken out of context and the interpretation apparently only backed by 'trust me bro!'.
      - yucky 5y ago
        Do you think the government & public educational institutions should treat everyone the same regardless of skin color?
        AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
        I presume you're about to pull a quote from some proponent of critical race theory whos says otherwise, so I don't know why you're bothering to be coy about it. By all means, please do so and link the context around the quote so I can properly evaluate what they're actually saying, instead of just what some random internet is implying they are saying.

yucky 5y ago

One must ask themselves if they think the government should treat people differently based on the color of their skin. If you think the answer to this is yes (because CRT requires it), then I'm curious to hear why we now believe this form of racial discrimination to be a net positive in society.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
Exactly which part requires it? Indeed, the very definition asserts that 'race' is a social construct designed for the purpose of opressing some for the benefit of others. I think one must instead ask themselves "where the hell did I get this notion of what critical race theory means?".
- yucky 5y ago
  >I think one must instead ask themselves "where the hell did I get this notion of what critical race theory means?". I provided the exact quote from Ibram X. Kendi, if you don't accept the description from the foremost expert on CRT on how it requires racial discrimination, I'm not sure it's a truth you would ever be willing to accept. In the interests of not turning this place into Reddit, it's probably best to take Mr. Kendi at his word, and leave the rest up to the reader :)
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    > I provided the exact quote from Ibram X. Kendi Yes, and I provided reasoning as to why I think that quote is taken out of context. I have provided the text of the definition of Critical Race Theory from Wikipedia, which almost word for word has lifted it from Encyclopedia Britannica. I'm going to have to take that over one sentence that was most likely taken out of context and the interpretation apparently only backed by 'trust me bro!'.
    - yucky 5y ago
      Do you think the government & public educational institutions should treat everyone the same regardless of skin color?
      - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
        I presume you're about to pull a quote from some proponent of critical race theory whos says otherwise, so I don't know why you're bothering to be coy about it. By all means, please do so and link the context around the quote so I can properly evaluate what they're actually saying, instead of just what some random internet is implying they are saying.