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>>trucks while "rolling goal" If you are going to insult people at least get the terminology correct, it is rolling coal, not goal. Further most people roll

by syshum 5y ago

>>trucks while "rolling goal" If you are going to insult people at least get the terminology correct, it is rolling coal, not goal. Further most people rolling coal are not libertarian. >>d "individuality" are simply self-centered anti-social assholes who haven't thought through the Libertarian ideologies they parrot deeply enough to realize how extremely dependent on and beneficial from collectivism they actually are Incorrect, Libertarians / Individualists do not reject the concept of society or working in groups to accomplish a goal. However they believe said interactions should be VOLUNTARY, and not forced upon you by 3rd party actors. >>against Obamacare for no better reason than the person THEY renamed the ACA after is black, Ohh yes, the only possible reasons someone could oppose ACA is because of racism.

DonHopkins 5y ago
Lord forbid I make a typo. But of course you knew exactly what I meant, and despite your attempt to disown that behavior, those people now OWN your precious Libertarian party just as much as they now OWN the Republican party. When your leaders are kissing Trump's ring, and you refuse to renounce and continue to follow those same leaders, you're kissing Trump's ring, too. Do you support with the way your glorious Libertarian leader Rand Paul has attacked and endangered Anthony Fauci's family by lying about him, and reject the government's right to mandate vaccination, but support spreading lies about people and endangering their families for political purposes? What ever happened to personal responsibility? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/12/how-politically-helpful-have-rand-pauls-attacks-anthony-fauci-been/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/12/how-polit... >How politically helpful have Rand Paul’s attacks on Anthony Fauci been? >One of the more remarkable political disputes in recent history involves two doctors. >One is Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), an ophthalmologist by training. The other is Anthony S. Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious-disease expert. The genesis of their fight is the coronavirus pandemic and, specifically, government recommendations (for which Fauci is a figurehead) that Paul opposes. Over the course of more than a half-dozen hearings centered on the pandemic, the fight has become much more personal, with Paul accusing Fauci of having contributed to the creation of the virus and Fauci forcefully pushing back. >On Tuesday, there was a new escalation. Obviously expecting Paul to challenge him, Fauci came prepared with an argument he hadn’t made previously: Paul was attacking him and putting his personal safety at risk for Paul’s own political benefit. >Fauci pointed out that a man had been arrested while on his way to Washington to attack a number of public officials, including himself. >“I ask myself, why would senator want to do this,” he continued, obviously flustered. “So, go to Rand Paul website, and you see ‘Fire Dr. Fauci,’ with a little box that says ‘Contribute here’ — you can do $5, $10, $20, $100 — so you are making a catastrophic epidemic for your political gain.” And of course there are possible reasons to oppose the ACA, but most of them don't hold any water because they are based on lies ("It's SOCIALISM!!!", "DEATH PANELS!!!"), and are just cover stories and dog whistles for naked racism. You know that as well as I do, so don't play coy and deny it.
- syshum 5y ago
  >>those people now OWN your precious Libertarian party I see you have confused the Libertarian party with libertarianism they are pretty different >>Do you support with the way your glorious Libertarian leader Rand Paul has attacked and endangered Anthony Fauci's Aside from the complete falsehood of this statement entirly, I do support elected officials grilling non-elected bureaucrats in the manner used by Rand. I also believe Fauci unfit to serve in his current role and there are serious questions around his tenure that need to be addressed including the funding of the Wuhan lab.
  - DonHopkins 5y ago
    And just to be clear: by "grilling" you mean lying about and endangering the families of non-elected bureaucrats for the purposes of political fundraising. You're exhibiting and defending precisely the behavior I mean when I say Libertarians are "self-centered anti-social assholes". You are not pretty different yourself, since you believe and spread the same conspiracy theories, and support Rand Paul's attack of complete falsehoods against Fauci and his family. Rand Paul's statements were mendacious lies, yet you support him and his lies and threats against Fauci for the sole purpose of fundraising. I'm glad you don't incorrectly disagree with the fact that most of the arguments proffered against ACA are just lies and racist dog whistles, but I certainly don't agree with you that it's a valid tactic, the ends justify the means, or that using racism and lies and threats and spreading misinformation against people's families to grab power and raise money is in any way ethical or justified, or a "great tactic" and that "misinformation works", as Rand Paul himself says. https://www.insider.com/old-video-resurfaces-rand-paul-telling-students-misinformation-great-tactic-2022-1 https://www.insider.com/old-video-resurfaces-rand-paul-telli... >An old video has surfaced of Sen. Rand Paul telling students that spreading misinformation is a 'great tactic'. https://boingboing.net/2022/01/13/watch-rand-paul-tells-students-misinformation-works-in-resurfaced-2013-video.html https://boingboing.net/2022/01/13/watch-rand-paul-tells-stud... >Watch: Rand Paul tells students "misinformation works" in resurfaced 2013 video
    - syshum 5y ago
      >>I'm glad you don't incorrectly disagree with the fact that most of the arguments proffered against ACA Just because I choose not to respond to all of our unhinged conspiracy laced non-sense claims that everything you disagree with is a dog whistle to racism does not in anyway imply I support said statements. ' I choose not argue with crazy people on the internet, and clearly President Trump broke your mind and I hope for your sake you get professional help. >> since you believe and spread the same conspiracy theories, Sorry information released from government records pursuant to a FOIA request is not "conspiracy", I am sure you so biased in favor of your lord and savior (Dr Fauci) that you probably have one of those candles or figurines on your desk devoted to him so you will never believe anything negative however reality does not require your faith. He is mid rate bureaucrat thrust in the lime light by circumstance and this hero worship of him is insane. Further at no point did Rand threaten him or his family. The attempt to shift any real or imaged danger there is due to public backlash is a very dangerous game, tell me do you apply the same standard to Democrats who inflame AntiFa and other violent groups? Are these democrat politics to blame for all the violence, riots, etc they "cause" (and to be clear I do not believe they cause it, but you world view dictates we place this violence at their feet, i am judging you by your own standard) Somehow I bet you will be hypocritical

by syshum 5y ago

DonHopkins 5y ago

Lord forbid I make a typo. But of course you knew exactly what I meant, and despite your attempt to disown that behavior, those people now OWN your precious Libertarian party just as much as they now OWN the Republican party. When your leaders are kissing Trump's ring, and you refuse to renounce and continue to follow those same leaders, you're kissing Trump's ring, too. Do you support with the way your glorious Libertarian leader Rand Paul has attacked and endangered Anthony Fauci's family by lying about him, and reject the government's right to mandate vaccination, but support spreading lies about people and endangering their families for political purposes? What ever happened to personal responsibility? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/12/how-politically-helpful-have-rand-pauls-attacks-anthony-fauci-been/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/12/how-polit... >How politically helpful have Rand Paul’s attacks on Anthony Fauci been? >One of the more remarkable political disputes in recent history involves two doctors. >One is Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), an ophthalmologist by training. The other is Anthony S. Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious-disease expert. The genesis of their fight is the coronavirus pandemic and, specifically, government recommendations (for which Fauci is a figurehead) that Paul opposes. Over the course of more than a half-dozen hearings centered on the pandemic, the fight has become much more personal, with Paul accusing Fauci of having contributed to the creation of the virus and Fauci forcefully pushing back. >On Tuesday, there was a new escalation. Obviously expecting Paul to challenge him, Fauci came prepared with an argument he hadn’t made previously: Paul was attacking him and putting his personal safety at risk for Paul’s own political benefit. >Fauci pointed out that a man had been arrested while on his way to Washington to attack a number of public officials, including himself. >“I ask myself, why would senator want to do this,” he continued, obviously flustered. “So, go to Rand Paul website, and you see ‘Fire Dr. Fauci,’ with a little box that says ‘Contribute here’ — you can do $5, $10, $20, $100 — so you are making a catastrophic epidemic for your political gain.” And of course there are possible reasons to oppose the ACA, but most of them don't hold any water because they are based on lies ("It's SOCIALISM!!!", "DEATH PANELS!!!"), and are just cover stories and dog whistles for naked racism. You know that as well as I do, so don't play coy and deny it.

syshum 5y ago
>>those people now OWN your precious Libertarian party I see you have confused the Libertarian party with libertarianism they are pretty different >>Do you support with the way your glorious Libertarian leader Rand Paul has attacked and endangered Anthony Fauci's Aside from the complete falsehood of this statement entirly, I do support elected officials grilling non-elected bureaucrats in the manner used by Rand. I also believe Fauci unfit to serve in his current role and there are serious questions around his tenure that need to be addressed including the funding of the Wuhan lab.
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  And just to be clear: by "grilling" you mean lying about and endangering the families of non-elected bureaucrats for the purposes of political fundraising. You're exhibiting and defending precisely the behavior I mean when I say Libertarians are "self-centered anti-social assholes". You are not pretty different yourself, since you believe and spread the same conspiracy theories, and support Rand Paul's attack of complete falsehoods against Fauci and his family. Rand Paul's statements were mendacious lies, yet you support him and his lies and threats against Fauci for the sole purpose of fundraising. I'm glad you don't incorrectly disagree with the fact that most of the arguments proffered against ACA are just lies and racist dog whistles, but I certainly don't agree with you that it's a valid tactic, the ends justify the means, or that using racism and lies and threats and spreading misinformation against people's families to grab power and raise money is in any way ethical or justified, or a "great tactic" and that "misinformation works", as Rand Paul himself says. https://www.insider.com/old-video-resurfaces-rand-paul-telling-students-misinformation-great-tactic-2022-1 https://www.insider.com/old-video-resurfaces-rand-paul-telli... >An old video has surfaced of Sen. Rand Paul telling students that spreading misinformation is a 'great tactic'. https://boingboing.net/2022/01/13/watch-rand-paul-tells-students-misinformation-works-in-resurfaced-2013-video.html https://boingboing.net/2022/01/13/watch-rand-paul-tells-stud... >Watch: Rand Paul tells students "misinformation works" in resurfaced 2013 video
  - syshum 5y ago
    >>I'm glad you don't incorrectly disagree with the fact that most of the arguments proffered against ACA Just because I choose not to respond to all of our unhinged conspiracy laced non-sense claims that everything you disagree with is a dog whistle to racism does not in anyway imply I support said statements. ' I choose not argue with crazy people on the internet, and clearly President Trump broke your mind and I hope for your sake you get professional help. >> since you believe and spread the same conspiracy theories, Sorry information released from government records pursuant to a FOIA request is not "conspiracy", I am sure you so biased in favor of your lord and savior (Dr Fauci) that you probably have one of those candles or figurines on your desk devoted to him so you will never believe anything negative however reality does not require your faith. He is mid rate bureaucrat thrust in the lime light by circumstance and this hero worship of him is insane. Further at no point did Rand threaten him or his family. The attempt to shift any real or imaged danger there is due to public backlash is a very dangerous game, tell me do you apply the same standard to Democrats who inflame AntiFa and other violent groups? Are these democrat politics to blame for all the violence, riots, etc they "cause" (and to be clear I do not believe they cause it, but you world view dictates we place this violence at their feet, i am judging you by your own standard) Somehow I bet you will be hypocritical