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Prevent the theft, don't just deter it through legal consequences. Increase perimeter security (barbed wire, electrical fence) so that it's harder to get onto t

by ridaj 5y ago

Prevent the theft, don't just deter it through legal consequences. Increase perimeter security (barbed wire, electrical fence) so that it's harder to get onto the rails in the first place. Keep trains moving - don't park them for hours in dense metro areas with poor perimeter security. Get better locks. Or, partner with Mark Rober to create a giant train-car-sized glitter bomb that will douse thieves in glitter and fart spray when entered.

johnebgd 5y ago
Mark Rober solution is the only realistic option for California. Not likely they will incarcerate non-violent criminals. Waste their time, stink up their homes and cars with fart spray, stick glitter on everything, and put the entirety of it on YouTube for ad revenue to pay for it all. Seems like a real win for society in absence of competent government.
- ridaj 5y ago
  Or just keep trains moving. I'm shocked that US freight trains are left parked for so long in areas known to be theft-prone with poor fencing. I don't think these kinds of thieves would risk their lives going after a train running full speed.
  - financetechbro 5y ago
    Trains in the US don’t just stay parked for no reason. The route that this article discusses goes to a train yard in LA, due to the logistics of __very long train__ and limited amounts of rail bandwidth, trains move very slow / stop at times when entering these facilities. It would be impossible for the train to be running full speed here.
    - ridaj 5y ago
      Right. In other words the amount of vulnerable wait time is a direct consequence of wanting to fit ever increasing amounts of cargo on fixed infrastructure. How do truck shippers protect their wares? 1 driver per truck with eyes on the load all the way through. If they have to take a nap, it's in the truck... How do valuables travel? In armored cars with armed personnel. The train company isn't entitled to its business model of very long trains with loose security.
justsomehnguy 5y ago
> Prevent the theft, don't just deter it through legal consequences. Increase perimeter security (barbed wire, electrical fence) [...] Surprise, surprise, now your novelty "Zinc Alloy Premium Wing Corkscrew Wine Bottle Opener with Multifunctional Bottles Opener" costs $24.99 instead of $13.99
- ridaj 5y ago
  We already all pay for theft via the embedded insurance premiums in shipping costs.

by ridaj 5y ago

johnebgd 5y ago

Mark Rober solution is the only realistic option for California. Not likely they will incarcerate non-violent criminals. Waste their time, stink up their homes and cars with fart spray, stick glitter on everything, and put the entirety of it on YouTube for ad revenue to pay for it all. Seems like a real win for society in absence of competent government.

ridaj 5y ago
Or just keep trains moving. I'm shocked that US freight trains are left parked for so long in areas known to be theft-prone with poor fencing. I don't think these kinds of thieves would risk their lives going after a train running full speed.
- financetechbro 5y ago
  Trains in the US don’t just stay parked for no reason. The route that this article discusses goes to a train yard in LA, due to the logistics of __very long train__ and limited amounts of rail bandwidth, trains move very slow / stop at times when entering these facilities. It would be impossible for the train to be running full speed here.
  - ridaj 5y ago
    Right. In other words the amount of vulnerable wait time is a direct consequence of wanting to fit ever increasing amounts of cargo on fixed infrastructure. How do truck shippers protect their wares? 1 driver per truck with eyes on the load all the way through. If they have to take a nap, it's in the truck... How do valuables travel? In armored cars with armed personnel. The train company isn't entitled to its business model of very long trains with loose security.

justsomehnguy 5y ago

> Prevent the theft, don't just deter it through legal consequences. Increase perimeter security (barbed wire, electrical fence) [...] Surprise, surprise, now your novelty "Zinc Alloy Premium Wing Corkscrew Wine Bottle Opener with Multifunctional Bottles Opener" costs $24.99 instead of $13.99

ridaj 5y ago
We already all pay for theft via the embedded insurance premiums in shipping costs.