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If that were true, then it would be reflected in crime stat jumps during periods of recession, but it isn't.

by sennight 5y ago

HarryHirsch 5y ago
Wait, copper theft did go up around 2007, didn't it?
- Ourgon 5y ago
  Copper theft went up with the price of copper, this is a global phenomenon. I live in Sweden where this is a regular news item.
- sennight 5y ago
  dunno, but lets assume it did: is it more likely that existing thieves switched to a higher returning crime, or that out of work kindergarten teachers started stripping roof AC units? Wait, if the gap in wealth inequality has been doing nothing but expanding... why does the crime rate do nothing but fall? With very few, and very brief, exceptions - this is the case.
nuclearnice1 5y ago
> We find that the average arrest rate for a cohort entering the labour market during a recession is 10.2% higher than for an otherwise similar cohort entering a more buoyant labour market. [1] … > Weinberg and his collaborators Eric D. Gould of Hebrew University and David Mustard of the University of Georgia examined young males with no more than a high school education—the demographic group that commits the most crime—they found that average wages and unemployment rates were directly linked to the incidence of property crimes. [2] … > Crime has increased during every recession since the late 1950s, sociologists said. [3] [1] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/03/do-recessions-increase-crime/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/03/do-recessions-increas... [2] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-recessions-increase-crime/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-recessions-inc... [3] https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE50Q6FR20090127 https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/...
- sennight 5y ago
  - nuclearnice1 5y ago
    > Be kind. Don't be snarky. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

If that were true, then it would be reflected in crime stat jumps during periods of recession, but it isn't.

HarryHirsch 5y ago

Wait, copper theft did go up around 2007, didn't it?

Ourgon 5y ago
Copper theft went up with the price of copper, this is a global phenomenon. I live in Sweden where this is a regular news item.
sennight 5y ago
dunno, but lets assume it did: is it more likely that existing thieves switched to a higher returning crime, or that out of work kindergarten teachers started stripping roof AC units? Wait, if the gap in wealth inequality has been doing nothing but expanding... why does the crime rate do nothing but fall? With very few, and very brief, exceptions - this is the case.

nuclearnice1 5y ago

> We find that the average arrest rate for a cohort entering the labour market during a recession is 10.2% higher than for an otherwise similar cohort entering a more buoyant labour market. [1] … > Weinberg and his collaborators Eric D. Gould of Hebrew University and David Mustard of the University of Georgia examined young males with no more than a high school education—the demographic group that commits the most crime—they found that average wages and unemployment rates were directly linked to the incidence of property crimes. [2] … > Crime has increased during every recession since the late 1950s, sociologists said. [3] [1] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/03/do-recessions-increase-crime/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/03/do-recessions-increas... [2] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-recessions-increase-crime/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-recessions-inc... [3] https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE50Q6FR20090127 https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/...

sennight 5y ago
- nuclearnice1 5y ago
  > Be kind. Don't be snarky. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html